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  • Pete1979
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 670

    heaviest .223 bullet for 1-12 twist

    Does anyone have experience with a 1-12 twist in a 223? I use the 52gr SMK and Hornady 52gr HPBT with great results but lately I've been wanting to try something heavier. Has anyone tried heavier bullets in that twist rate?
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    sargenv
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 4620

    I think 55's are probably the heaviest bullets able to be stabilized by the 1 in 12.. but if you are willing to try a box of 60's, I would try them out for giggles..

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    • #3
      ireload
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 2589

      I have shot a 62 grain bullet (reload) from my single shot NEF rifle. I was getting roughly 1.75" to 2.00" from 100 yards. Considering the rifle was topped off with a 14x power scope. Now that 62 grain bullet was a Speer brand fmjbt similar to a M855. When I loaded some IMI 62 grain bullet the grouping opened to almost 3" at the same distance.

      My NEF rifle is tuned for Sierra 52 and 55 grain pills. It's a general rule for the rifling twist and bullet weight. You can try heavier bullets and see the end result. At times it can be surprising.

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      • #4
        damndave
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        • Oct 2008
        • 10858

        All barrels are different, but a 62gr will definitely be the highest I would try. Only your rifle will know what it can do.

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        • #5
          FLIGHT762
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 3069

          Sierra makes a 63 gr. SMP #1370 that was designed to stabilize in a 1-12" barrel and can shoot well in a 1-12".

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          • #6
            Don Edmondson
            Member
            • May 2010
            • 377

            I have a Remington Model 700 in 223 with 1in12 I use Sierra#1380 69 gr HPBT Match King. there for 1/ 7to 1/10 twist but with my rifle they stay well under 1/2 " at 100 yds with 25 grains of W748 Try them Don
            Last edited by Don Edmondson; 01-01-2012, 11:37 AM.

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            • #7
              bruceflinch
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              • Jan 2006
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              I'm having a moment....

              Remind me again.
              1:7 twist is fast/slow?
              1:12 twist is fast/slow?

              The slower/faster the twist, the lighter/heavier the bullet?

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              • #8
                grant22
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 625

                1-12 twist is slower than the 1-7. I think the OP's 53 gr SMK is about ideal for a 1-12 twist.
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                • #9
                  mnguyen84
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 1132

                  1:12" = 1 full rotation per 12".
                  ..etc

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                  • #10
                    Spanky8601
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 2252

                    A 52 grain Nosler out of my 700 will consistently shoot 5 shot groups of under 1/2 inch. I have tried a little heavier but the results have not been as good.
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                    • #11
                      GeoffLinder
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 2425

                      1:12 is usually going to be limited to 55gr as heaviest that will "properly" stabilize but as said before, individual barrels often defy their specifications.

                      You might get a 60-62 to stabilize but I doubt you will have any luck with heavier.

                      As a case in point, the 1:9 twist is very common in AR's nowadays. A 1:9 is not supposed to stabilize 77gr bullets but sometimes a 1:9 barrel will, sometimes it won't.

                      Same situation here, you will just have to test to see what actually works in your barrel.

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                      • #12
                        JagerDog
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                        • May 2011
                        • 14036

                        Have to consider distance too. What works at 100 may not work at 200, 300, etc.
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                        • #13
                          njineermike
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 9784

                          Is there any decent cross reference for twist vs. Bullet weight? I have some 55gr for my AR with a 1:7 teist, but I've been told that's too light.
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                          • #14
                            GeoffLinder
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 2425

                            Originally posted by njineermike
                            Is there any decent cross reference for twist vs. Bullet weight? I have some 55gr for my AR with a 1:7 teist, but I've been told that's too light.
                            55gr is just fine in 1:7 twist. 50gr or lighter may have problems, 52gr may or may not over-stabilize, but are usually good to go in 1:7 too.

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                            • #15
                              Don Edmondson
                              Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 377

                              Originally posted by njineermike
                              Is there any decent cross reference for twist vs. Bullet weight? I have some 55gr for my AR with a 1:7 teist, but I've been told that's too light.
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