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  • NYY
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 1877

    .223 Overall Length Question in AR

    for just plinking..55gr bullets, what OAL do you have set for your use? I know the MAX length is 2.26. The Federal xm193 that WORKS for my AR is 2.25. Is that what i should copy?
    Last edited by NYY; 12-29-2011, 9:07 PM.
  • #2
    WRENCHHEAD
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 803

    you mean cartridge length? case length is the just the length of the brass case.

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    • #3
      joelogic
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2008
      • 6593

      Yes. +1 on its OAL, overall length.
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      • #4
        NYY
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 1877

        my bad. ill fix it. OAL. back to topic?

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        • #5
          joelogic
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2008
          • 6593

          Answer is still yes. 2.25" or the cannalure if you are going to crimp.
          Micro/Mini Reflex Red Dot Sight Mount for the M1, M1a/M14 platform

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          • #6
            XDRoX
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 4420

            I load to 2.23". Just because that's a cool number for the round
            Chris
            <----Rimfire Addict


            Originally posted by Oceanbob
            Get a DILLON...

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            • #7
              rg1
              Member
              • May 2008
              • 274

              Hornady 55 gr. FMJ bullets have a blunt rounded tip shape. Overall length for them is from 2.200-2.230". Other 55 fmj bullets have a more sharply pointed tip and they usually have an overall length at 2.250" like your Federals. It can depend on the particular bullet you're using.

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              • #8
                NYY
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 1877

                Originally posted by rg1
                Hornady 55 gr. FMJ bullets have a blunt rounded tip shape. Overall length for them is from 2.200-2.230". Other 55 fmj bullets have a more sharply pointed tip and they usually have an overall length at 2.250" like your Federals. It can depend on the particular bullet you're using.
                ah i see. much appreciated

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                • #9
                  GeoffLinder
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 2425

                  Anywhere from 2.220" to 2.250" is about right for 55gr. If there is a cannelure, just seat till cannelure is centered on case mouth.

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                  • #10
                    ejhc11
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 1214

                    I noticed my boxes of Hornady bullets the length can vary between .001-.004 due to the tips being deformed or not.

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                    • #11
                      damndave
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 10858

                      I load my 223 to 2.25"

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                      • #12
                        joelogic
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2008
                        • 6593

                        Originally posted by ejhc11
                        I noticed my boxes of Hornady bullets the length can vary between .001-.004 due to the tips being deformed or not.
                        That's why the ogive is the most accurate place to measure from.
                        Micro/Mini Reflex Red Dot Sight Mount for the M1, M1a/M14 platform

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                        • #13
                          level 10
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                          • Feb 2011
                          • 114

                          2.250

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                          • #14
                            One78Shovel
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 2962

                            2.220

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                            • #15
                              Metal Monster
                              Junior Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 47

                              I asked myself a similar question when I first started reloading. "What OAL should I use?" for my AR. What I knew was that the closer the bullet was to the lands (where the rifling starts in the barrel) the better it would shoot because it would lessen the vibration issues.

                              So, I seated bullet on an empty case (no powder, no primer, no crimping) at an OAL of approx 2.265" then loaded the dummy round in the chamer and slammed the bolt on it and remeasured at a new OAL of exactly 2.250". Then, I used that cartridge to adjust the seating die and seated subsequent rounds at that length (but really 2.248 to 2.253 because of bullet tip inconsistencies).

                              At the range it shot really well (< 0.75" @100 yds) with 3, 5, or 10 shot groups consistently (fully supported). With other reload specs and factory ammo, I was getting 1" to 4" shot groups at 100 yds at best.

                              That's my story...it worked for my set up but as you know every barrel is manufactured different but it looks like others on this thread have already concluded 2.250" is the magic number for their set up.

                              SPECS: LMT AR rifle - 16" barrel, 1:7 twist; Hornady 75 grain BTHP bullets; 22.5 grains Varget, and no crimp (this bullet has no cannalure anyway). Lee dies. RCBS Rockchucker.

                              Good luck and have fun.
                              Last edited by Metal Monster; 01-04-2012, 12:50 PM. Reason: Added accurate grains of Varget info.

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