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  • The Geologist
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 641

    Primer question for .357 Mag and .45 Auto

    I have a boat load of Fiocchi .357 Mag and Blazer .45 Auto casings with small primer pockets. What primers should I use for these? Books I have don't show any specs. I'm a bit new in the reloading scene.
  • #2
    Na-vah-duh
    Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 382

    Small pistol primers

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    • #3
      wtkaiser
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 660

      Is that Blazer made with the aluminum "brass"? If so, shouldn't it be effectively unloadable with Berdan primers?

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      • #4
        bandook
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 1220

        Small Pistol Magnum for .357 Magnum. Small Pistol for .45 Auto Blazer Brass. (the Aluminum stuff isn't re-loadable)

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        • #5
          Dark Mod
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 4284

          Small pistol primers will work fine with both

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          • #6
            Fyathyrio
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 1082

            For the .357, follow the recipes in your loading manuals, some use small pistol magnum, some just use small pistol. For the .45 you will likely have to experiment a bit (start low and work up) as there's not a ton of load data for SP primers.
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            • #7
              Bill Steele
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2010
              • 5028

              Originally posted by markdoddridge
              Small pistol primers will work fine with both
              I agree, that is what I use.
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              • #8
                The Geologist
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 641

                Any brand suggestions? CCI, Winchester, Remington.......?

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                • #9
                  Fishslayer
                  In Memoriam
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 13035

                  For the .45, any Small Pistol Primer will be fine. Any load recipe will specify but I've never seen a .45ACP call for a magnum primer. I've run a couple batches of the SPP .45ACP & there was no appreciable difference.

                  For .357 Magnum loads it depends on the powder. I've never seen a magnum primer specified for Alliant 2400 while H110 usually does. Check your manual.

                  Magnum loads with faster powders don't generally require a magnum primer.

                  As for brands, CCI are generally considered the hardest primers and Federal the softest (easiest to ignite.) Federal packaging sucks.
                  I've used CCI & Winchester large & small & they work fine. I prefer the Winchester. They seem to seat a bit more easily.
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                  Originally Posted by JackRydden224
                  I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
                  Originally posted by redcliff
                  A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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                  • #10
                    Ukiahgunnut
                    Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 160

                    My 1911 used Large Pistol Primers for the reloading of Winchester JHP (white box) 45acp. I have heard about small pistol primers for some .45acp, but not many.

                    UGN

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                    • #11
                      stand125
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 1451

                      Originally posted by Ukiahgunnut
                      My 1911 used Large Pistol Primers for the reloading of Winchester JHP (white box) 45acp. I have heard about small pistol primers for some .45acp, but not many.

                      UGN
                      I am noticing more federal and Blazer SPP 45acp brass at the range lately. I can notice a difference between SPP and LPP if the powder load is light.
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                      • #12
                        Bill Steele
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 5028

                        Originally posted by The Geologist
                        Any brand suggestions? CCI, Winchester, Remington.......?
                        I prefer Winchester, Powder Valley has them. My last order was $25/1000.
                        When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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                        • #13
                          j.primo
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 1139

                          I've used CCI, FEDERAL, WINCHESTER, SPP. All work great and go bang. Right now I'm going through a brick of Tula, no issues so far with the Tula.

                          I have reloaded Federal .45 SPP with the same recipes from my .45 LPP. The only difference between the two is primer size.

                          Some people say use Magnum primers for .357, i still use non magnum primers.

                          Just get a brick of SPP your choice of brand (I get whatever is most inexpensive) and you'll be good to go from there.

                          It sucks when you start getting .45 large primers pocketed casing. I only have about 65 .45 SPP, so I keep that batch separate and tumble it with brass that's not .45.

                          Good lucks
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                          • #14
                            Fishslayer
                            In Memoriam
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 13035

                            Originally posted by Ukiahgunnut
                            My 1911 used Large Pistol Primers for the reloading of Winchester JHP (white box) 45acp. I have heard about small pistol primers for some .45acp, but not many.

                            UGN
                            It's showing up more & more in "non-toxic" ammo made for indoor ranges.

                            It's what our local WalMarts are carrying. Federal is the biggie. Headstamp is a * Federal* vice a plain "Federal." I've collected quite a good stash of those. Loaded up a couple batches & they work just fine. No real difference from LPP.

                            Win-Kleen is another common one.

                            CCI, Blazer & Speer are a few others that come to mind that sometimes have the SPP.
                            "He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog.
                            You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
                            You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."


                            Originally Posted by JackRydden224
                            I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
                            Originally posted by redcliff
                            A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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                            • #15
                              Ukiahgunnut
                              Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 160

                              I am fairly new to the .45acp scene, but not to reloading. I am learning new things about the .45acp. Thanks Fishslayer.

                              UGN

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