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  • oso grande
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 869

    Tight chamber.

    I have heard, that, if a bullet won't easily slide into the mouth of a fired, un-sized case, the chamber is too tight.
    Any truth to this?
    A dangerous situation?
    OG
  • #2
    Turo
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2009
    • 5066

    With the variation of case thickness, especially one that has been fired and not resized, I'd say it's a fairly inaccurate way to diagnose a problem with the gun.
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    • #3
      swifty
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 929

      Compare the chamber dimensions with SAAMI specs.

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      • #4
        oso grande
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 869

        Originally posted by swifty
        Compare the chamber dimensions with SAAMI specs.
        Gosh, I don't know how to measure the chamber.

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        • #5
          swifty
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 929

          A chamber cast would need to be poured then measured. Cerrosafe from Brownells is the common material to use, though sulfur works fine.

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          • #6
            chim-chim7
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 1845

            Long tipped inside micrometer.

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            • #7
              bruceflinch
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              • Jan 2006
              • 40127

              Is the OP having an issue or just scratching an itch?
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              • #8
                rsrocket1
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 2769

                Chamber that fired case. If it is a snug fit, take the measurements of that case. Is it too big?

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                • #9
                  CSACANNONEER
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                  • Dec 2006
                  • 44093

                  Is the case so long that it has grown past the chamber thus, pinching the case mouth closed? If so, that's why we trim or brass.
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                  • #10
                    huckberry668
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 1502

                    Let's think about this, the chamber cannot be tighter than the cartridge or it won't load.

                    1. Chamber is the entire barrel portion that actually contacts the cartridge. What you're describing is just the 'neck' portion.

                    2. The neck portion of the chamber should be at least .003"+ larger than the factory/loaded ammunication (bullet diameter + (2x neck thickness)). When fired, the brass will expand to .001"-.002" smaller than the actual chamber neck diameter. It actually first expand to seal the chamber as the bullet leaves the mouth then 'spring' back .001"-.002".

                    So if the original cartridge you're describing actually 'fired safely'. that means the neck portion of the chamber is less than .002" larger than the diameter of the loaded cartridge at the neck. That's too tight of a chamber neck for commercial ammo. I've only seen chambers like that on custom guns (mostly bench rest rifles) where the shooters 'turn' the necks of the brass to closely match the chamber neck.

                    3. I fired some military rounds out of my customed .336" neck (if I remember correctly) 308win match gun and had some difficulty sliding a bullet in the fired case mouth. but that's due to the heavily crimped mouth. once I trimmed off the crimped area the bullet slides in with no tension.

                    So, if I had a gun with a chamber as you described, I'd be careful with the choice of ammunition I shoot out of it. 'Pinching' of the bullet at the chamber neck or leade/throat can cause catastrophic failure (blow up) from high chamber pressure.
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