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  • dholla
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 921

    Best all around powder

    What is your opinion on the best all around powder for multiple handgun calibers for target shooting. No crazy hot loads, just basic paper load?

    Seems that Titegroup and 231 seem to wear a lot of hats. I do not have years of experience and have not tried every powder, so I am curious what others have used.
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    stand125
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 1451

    I was going to recommend those two. I like that w231 fills more of the case that Titegroup, but a lb of Titegroup can load a lot of ammo.
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    • #3
      NRAhighpowershooter
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      • Jun 2003
      • 6485

      me uses 231 for 357, 38sp, 45acp, 40, and 9mmmm
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      • #4
        vmwerks
        Norcal Cyclist
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jun 2009
        • 3502

        W231 and Bullseye work for .38 /.357 .40 and .45 for me, light to medium loads.

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        • #5
          XDRoX
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 4420

          Originally posted by NRAhighpowershooter
          me uses 231 for 357, 38sp, 45acp, 40, and 9mmmm
          I use WST for 357, 38spl, 45acp, 40 and 9mm.

          And I'll even one up you
          45acp, 40, and 9mm even take the same charge. So I don't even have to change the drop
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          • #6
            level 10
            Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 114

            w 231 works pretty well

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            • #7
              Bt Doctur
              Member
              • Jan 2010
              • 471

              231, Unique, Bullseye, Herco

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              • #8
                bruceflinch
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                • Jan 2006
                • 40127

                231 & Unique
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                • #9
                  joelogic
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2008
                  • 6593

                  I am having really good luck with 700x for minor loads. 231 seems to favor major.
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                  • #10
                    sirgrumps
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 2495

                    I knew the guys who used to run Western Ammo and they used 231 for all of their pistol loads.
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                    • #11
                      Fishslayer
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                      • Jan 2010
                      • 13035

                      Most loaders have what's called a "powder trinity" ie a trio of powders to fill the great majority of needs.

                      A fast & medium powder for target/lighter loads and a slow powder for heavy bullet/high velocity magnum loads.

                      W231/HP38 (same powder) and Unique are two of the popular medium burn rate pistol powders. They're good for target loads and will work in magnums but you will give up a bit in maximum velocity, especially with heavier bullets.

                      Titegroup is a fast powder, right next to Bullseye on the Hodgedon burn rate chart. I don't use it myself because there is way more data available for Bullseye, Bullseye is readily available in my area and Titegroup is said to be a bit twitchy, especially when pushing maximum loads.

                      I load for .38/.357, 9mm and .45ACP and use Bullseye, W231 and 2400. IMO you really need 3 powders to get the most out of all of them.

                      Here's the burn rate chart.

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                      If I had to chose one powder for target loads only it would be Bullseye.
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                      • #12
                        cjskalka
                        Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 458

                        I thought that powder was titegroup until I started using Unique...

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                        • #13
                          Excaliburr
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 936

                          Really depends on the kind of handguns you have. I like Hogdon Clays for my 38's, .357 Magnum and 9mm. Meters nice, clean burning and accurate. Plus it is cost effective. Just my .02.

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                          • #14
                            ireload
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 2589

                            My primary is Unique and seconday is W231

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                            • #15
                              SixPointEight
                              Veteran Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 3788

                              Unique has been my go to powder. 231 I keep hearing good things about also.

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