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  • dirty_530
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 1677

    Reloading noob looking for direction

    Hey guys I am completely new to the whole reloading process and I would like to start pressing my own ammo for my 30-06, 12 ga, and my Ar. I am hoping to get some direction, and a list of all the necessary equipment, as well as do's and don'ts. Thank you in advance!
    You know why there's a Second Amendment? In case the government fails to follow the first one.

    - Rush Limbaugh
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    rsrocket1
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 2768

    The stickies are your friend
    If you have more specific questions, c'mon back!

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    • #3
      bruceflinch
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 40127

      Shotgun shell presses are different than the presses used for rifle/pistol.
      Additional directions...Sun rises in the East, Sets in the West
      Last edited by bruceflinch; 11-08-2011, 12:42 PM.
      Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

      I belong to the group that uses firearms, and knows which bathroom to use.

      Tis better to have Trolled & lost, Than to never have Trolled, at all.

      Secret Club Member?.

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      • #4
        robert101
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 1997

        Welcome to the forum. I'm not trying to side-step your question, but you are really asking for a lot of information. My advice is to purchase a reloading manual like Richard Lee's 7th Addition and read a little. Many pages of good information. When you get more informed your questions and answers will be more defined. Reloading is not only economical but the way to shoot more. Let us know how things progress.

        BTW, I started with a single stage press, scale, powder measurer, and dies. Manuals too.

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        • #5
          dirty_530
          Senior Member
          • May 2011
          • 1677

          Thanks Robert! I'm heading out the door right now to buy Richard Lee's book
          You know why there's a Second Amendment? In case the government fails to follow the first one.

          - Rush Limbaugh

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          • #6
            dirty_530
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 1677

            Originally posted by bruceflinch
            Shotgun shell presses are different than the presses used for rifle/pistol.
            Additional directions...Sun rises in the East, Sets in the West


            Whatta douche
            You know why there's a Second Amendment? In case the government fails to follow the first one.

            - Rush Limbaugh

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            • #7
              rsrocket1
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 2768

              +1 with Robert101
              Lee's book is decidedly in favor of his own products, but if you are able to avoid getting jaded by what seems to be a shameless promotion of his stuff, he does impart a lot of knowledge. He covers metallic loading of rifle, pistol, lead casting and shotshell reloading in great detail. Much more than the front section of most reloading manuals which are mostly dedicated to load data.

              In terms of what to get, what to consider (single stage/progressive, what brand), you have a vast knowledge base in these and other forums as well as the internet.

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              • #8
                bruceflinch
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 40127

                Originally posted by dirty_530
                Whatta douche
                Sorry, Didn't know you had your Funny Bone removed. You should get a little thicker skin, if you want to come to a Public Forum & ask for help.

                Since you didn't to bother to read the the Sticky at the top of this Forum before asking your simple question with the complex answer, you probably also skipped reading the Forum Rules about name calling.

                Please read your Reloading Manuals so you don't have an accident at home.
                & read this thread for your own protection.
                Last edited by bruceflinch; 11-08-2011, 9:30 PM.
                Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

                I belong to the group that uses firearms, and knows which bathroom to use.

                Tis better to have Trolled & lost, Than to never have Trolled, at all.

                Secret Club Member?.

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                • #9
                  Fyathyrio
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 1082

                  Another good book that describes reloading very well is ABC's of Reloading. Should be available at big box book stores or Amazon for roughly $15. I believe the most current edition is now the 9th, it covers everything in a clear manner split up nicely by topic such as casting your own bullets, rifle brass prep, powders, primers, ect.
                  "Everything I ever learned about leadership, I learned from a Chief Petty Officer." - John McCain
                  "Use your hammer, not your mouth, jackass!" - Mike Ditka
                  There has never been a shortage of people eager to draw up blueprints for running other people's lives. - Thomas Sowell
                  Originally posted by James Earl Jones
                  The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose.

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                  • #10
                    theduece
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 768

                    Great advice bieng given get a few books. Watch a few videos on the differnt presses, single stage, progressive, shotshell.

                    Establish your budget and what it is you would like to start with. That way when you ask people will more than likely help. Though there seems to be a plethora of metalic loaders here there are not many shotshell loaders.
                    ......

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                    • #11
                      grant22
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 625

                      When I wanted to get into reloading I had a similar perception: "tell me what to buy, and I'll buy it."

                      Like the above guys are saying, there's more to it than that. Ask yourself these questions (some you've already answered) then go from there.

                      -What formats and calibers do you want to reload (Metal 30-06, .223 & shotgun) Yes, rifle reloading and shotgun reloading are 2 different species and two different presses. Do you want to reload any pistol? If so, that would encourage you to get a metallic reloader that does rifle and pistol. The shotgun reloader will be seperate.

                      -What are you looking for out of your rounds? Plinkers, accurate plinkers, precision, or maybe bench rest accurate? This will determine what you need to buy. The more accurate you want them to be, the more stuff you'd wanna buy.

                      -What kind of qty do you want to turn out TOTAL? Do you want to just make enough at a time for the weeekend? Or do you want to stockpile? This helps determine what route to go......single stage, pogressive, etc.

                      -What kind of qty do you want to turn out PER SITTING? Do you want to make 20 really accurate rounds per sitting or 300 per sitting? This will determine whether you get a single stage or a really efficient progressive.

                      First and foremost, though, like others have said: Go buy a manual and read the tutorial section (not so much read the recipes). Then you need to know if you want to do pistol or not, cuz if you do, START WITH PISTOL.....it'll give you a good foundation to start with.
                      Reloaders: Stay safe, even the things you don't see may bite you. Read more here: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=495909

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                      • #12
                        Dark Mod
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 4284

                        Heres my advice: start off with .223 and .30-06, save the shotgun press until you know what your doing.

                        Buy a lee anniversary kit for $80, then buy components, dies, a digital scale, and maybe a tumbler and media. Also some calipers.

                        Read a reloading book or lurk on the forums until you know how to do it, then start loading your rifle rounds.

                        If it makes sense to you and you dont blow yourself up, invest $100 in a USED shotgun press and then buy all the other stuff you need.

                        Buy more equipment when the need arises, and upgrade to more expensive equipment as the need arises

                        For a starting point though i highly recommend the lee kit, its cheap enough that its no big loss if you decide reloading isnt for you, and its quality is high enough that it will still be usefull when your grandchildren inherit it. Except for the scale that is, toss the scale and buy a cheap digital one

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                        • #13
                          Fyathyrio
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 1082

                          Pretty much everything I've read about shotgun reloading told me that there's not much savings unless you're loading a ton. When I did the time/cost analysis I decided against it. With pistol/rifle there really is savings, you can recover your press/tools/components costs within a few thousand rounds give or take. Using new brass and high end jacketed rounds is still cheaper than a box from the store. Buying in bulk really helps, like thousands of primers at a time.
                          "Everything I ever learned about leadership, I learned from a Chief Petty Officer." - John McCain
                          "Use your hammer, not your mouth, jackass!" - Mike Ditka
                          There has never been a shortage of people eager to draw up blueprints for running other people's lives. - Thomas Sowell
                          Originally posted by James Earl Jones
                          The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose.

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                          • #14
                            h0use
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 5783

                            for shot shells, i would recomened mec reloader. as for the others i have been using LEE reloading press for years. they are inexpensive and work very well. both companys have verry good customer service as well.

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                            • #15
                              theduece
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 768

                              Originally posted by Fyathyrio
                              Pretty much everything I've read about shotgun reloading told me that there's not much savings unless you're loading a ton. When I did the time/cost analysis I decided against it. With pistol/rifle there really is savings, you can recover your press/tools/components costs within a few thousand rounds give or take. Using new brass and high end jacketed rounds is still cheaper than a box from the store. Buying in bulk really helps, like thousands of primers at a time.
                              I haven't gotten a whole lot of savings with pistol and rifle loading..... I do however get 2-3x's more ammo for my money.

                              lol and yes buying in 8lb kegs and 5k primers at a time reduces the per round cost. ALOT, however now when I go out rather than a few boxes of a certain caliber I take ammo boxes stuffed with rounds. Meaning rather than spend say $.30 per round buying factory. I can get that down to $.12 I just shoot 4x's more now, so whereas before I spent say $100 on ammo for a trip I now spend $150 on components for the trip.

                              O and reloading is like an entirely different hobby in itself. Be careful once you start before you know it you will have invested as much time and money into setups as in guns(ok that is a bit of a stretch but not by much).
                              ......

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