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  • wildcard
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2006
    • 4917

    Pics of reloading warning signs

    Does anyone have pictures of the common warning signs/ dangers such as:

    Flattened primers
    Case seperations
    Head seperations
    Blown out primers
    etc.

    I'm particularly interestes in flattened primers. I hear a lot about it, but i'm sure I and the newbie's don't know what it even looks like.
  • #2
    rksimple
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2006
    • 6257

    I'll try to get some pics tonight. I probably still have some Federal cases around with HUGE primer pockets from blown primers.

    Split necks is another. I usually find them by hearing a different sound when I'm handling the cases, more than visually identifying them.
    GAP Team Shooter 5

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    • #3
      ar15barrels
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 57122

      Originally posted by wildcard
      Does anyone have pictures of the common warning signs/ dangers such as:

      Flattened primers
      Case seperations
      Head seperations
      Blown out primers
      etc.

      I'm particularly interestes in flattened primers. I hear a lot about it, but i'm sure I and the newbie's don't know what it even looks like.
      Do you have a reloading manual?
      The good ones will have pictures of this stuff in them.
      Randall Rausch

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      • #4
        ocabj
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2005
        • 7924

        The NRA Guide to Reloading is a good book:



        Get the ABC's of Reloading, too.

        Distinguished Rifleman #1924
        NRA Certified Instructor (Rifle and Metallic Cartridge Reloading) and RSO
        NRL22 Match Director at WEGC

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        • #5
          Fjold
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Oct 2005
          • 22937

          Check out Steve's pages for all kinds of pictures and explanations.



          Flattened primer on the left
          Last edited by Fjold; 11-01-2007, 3:09 PM.
          Frank

          One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




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          • #6
            wildcard
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2006
            • 4917

            Thanks for the pics and links. Just what I was looking for. Now I know!

            Never thought to look through my manuals for the pics.. or maybe I just forgot about them since I was more focused on the "how to" when I first started.

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            • #7
              PistolPete75
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2007
              • 5230

              are flatened primers bad? happens to me all the time.

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              • #8
                PistolPete75
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2007
                • 5230

                nevermind, the severity isn't that bad. i guess, i'm running a little hot.

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                • #9
                  mecam
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 4049

                  Picture on the right seems like a very light load. Even the Rem factory UMCs are flatter than that. My primers are in between the two.
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                  • #10
                    xrMike
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 7841

                    Here's a pic of (what I think is) an example of over-pressure, although I'm still not sure what was going on here... Our club was having its monthly plate match and one member was shooting .38 super handloads, and he started to pass around his empties, trying to get an opinion of what was happening:



                    He was shooting a 1911-style semi-auto.

                    It looks like a small amount of the primer cup, upon firing, was flowing back INTO the hole in the breechface (through which the firing pin protrudes) and was getting sheared off as the brass was extracted.

                    Nobody who was present knew for certain what was happening here, but this was the best guess that anybody came up with.

                    If it was overpressure though, how come the circumference/outer edge of the primer cup doesn't look "pushed out" against the brass? The only evidence of over-pressure is the metal around the primer strike.

                    If anybody knows exactly what was happening here, I'd be glad to hear it.

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                    • #11
                      CSACANNONEER
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 44093

                      I only know of one caliber where a flattened primmer MIGHT NOT be a sign of excessive pressure. If you load and shoot 50BMG (and, probably 510DTC) you can and will find flattened primmers even with mild loads. Of course, this means that you need to pay closer attention to the other "normal" signs of excessive pressure when shooting the big 50s.
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                      • #12
                        ar15barrels
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 57122

                        Originally posted by xrMike
                        Here's a pic of (what I think is) an example of over-pressure, although I'm still not sure what was going on here... Our club was having its monthly plate match and one member was shooting .38 super handloads, and he started to pass around his empties, trying to get an opinion of what was happening
                        Oversized firing pin hole in the slide, or undersized firing pin.
                        Pressures are NOT high on those loads.
                        Even at moderate pressures, the primer will extrude into the firing pin hole.
                        That's why the firing pin should FILL the firing pin hole.

                        Think of the primer and case as a fancy gasket to hold pressure.
                        His slide and firing pin fit are causing a leak.
                        The gasket is squishing out to fill that leak.
                        When the barrel drops during unlocking, the extra primer cup gets either wiped off or sheared off.
                        Randall Rausch

                        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                        Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                        Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                        Most work performed while-you-wait.

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