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  • #16
    XDRoX
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 4420

    Forgive all my questions, but are you saying that a dillon brand 380 case gauge can be used to check OAL?
    Chris
    <----Rimfire Addict


    Originally posted by Oceanbob
    Get a DILLON...

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    • #17
      shinbone
      Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 281

      Ive been tempted to in the past, but why? Just wait for the gun to come so you can figure out what it likes. If you load up a batch that it doesn't like, then youre going to have to pull the bullets out and re-reload.
      Rails and beavertails = business up front and party in the back.

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      • #18
        XDRoX
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 4420

        Originally posted by shinbone
        Ive been tempted to in the past, but why? Just wait for the gun to come so you can figure out what it likes. If you load up a batch that it doesn't like, then youre going to have to pull the bullets out and re-reload.
        I kind of did it as a challenge. I'm pretty sure they'll work fine. And if they don't, I'll have taught myself a lesson by having to pull 100 rounds. There is not really that much that could go wrong. I'm shooting a load that at least 3 other people I know have shot through the same gun as I'm getting.

        But, if they don't work, don't worry, I'll post it in this thread and let you guys know. I'm certainly not above admitting to my mistakes.
        Chris
        <----Rimfire Addict


        Originally posted by Oceanbob
        Get a DILLON...

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        • #19
          brando
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2006
          • 3694

          Both of my .338LM and .408CT rifles were delivered a bit later than I expected, but I still did some initial loads for them during the wait. In both cases I loaded up an initial load development batch to standard dimensions but varying charge weights as well as a small batch of light loads to break things in.
          --Brando

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          • #20
            AMProducts
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 53

            Originally posted by XDRoX
            Forgive all my questions, but are you saying that a dillon brand 380 case gauge can be used to check OAL?
            There are a few ideas I'm talking about that are a bit nuanced.

            OAL should be checked with a pair of dial calipers, a height gauge, or a micrometer depending on how puckered you are about the OAL. Now one of the things that is dependent on OAL and the Ogive of the bullet, is how close the bullet will be to the throat of the barrel.

            If you look at this drawing: http://www.saami.org/PubResources/CC... Automatic.pdf

            You will see (in the second figure) a 4degree taper that changes between chamber and the barrel. If your OAL is too long or the bullet has an odd ogive, the bullet will engage the throat/rifling early, which can result in a few different headaches: rounds not chambering, loaded rounds refusing to extract, loaded rounds leaving a bullet stuck in the barrel on extraction, and high chamber pressures on firing.

            Now, I don't have a dillon .380 gage, but I do have a dillon .45ACP gage which will make any of the above problems obvious. So I would say the dillon .380 gage should have the same feature. Also, I do have a midway branded .380 gage, which has the same feature (it has a step replicating the headspace you would find in a real gun barrel).

            I hope I'm making some sense here describing this.
            Type 10/02 Manufacturer
            Author of the Ammo Blog http://bulletmaker.blogspot.com

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            • #21
              Eargasm
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 611

              Yep. I've got dies and setups for calibers I don't own yet.

              Dies I have: .308, .243, .45, .223, .40

              Dies for calibers I own: .223, .40

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              • #22
                sequoia_nomad
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 803

                So, have you picked it up yet?!?

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                • #23
                  XDRoX
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 4420

                  Originally posted by sequoia_nomad
                  So, have you picked it up yet?!?
                  I get it tomorrow at 10:30AM. Can't wait.
                  Chris
                  <----Rimfire Addict


                  Originally posted by Oceanbob
                  Get a DILLON...

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                  • #24
                    wtkaiser
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 660

                    I've loaded .308 for two friends who had them but didn't use them. I've loaded .380 for a stepson who has a little Star in that caliber. And I've loaded some 9mm and I am a confirmed revolver guy. I loaded 7mmMag after I sold mine (and my shoulder thanks me every time I go to the range - off the bench that thing was rough).

                    I got a bunch of different types of brass and dies out in the garage. I guess I'll go see what I have and see what memories come back to me.

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                    • #25
                      bruceflinch
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 40120

                      No, but I've thought about it...
                      Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

                      I belong to the group that uses firearms, and knows which bathroom to use.

                      Tis better to have Trolled & lost, Than to never have Trolled, at all.

                      Secret Club Member?.

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                      • #26
                        XDRoX
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 4420

                        I finally got it!
                        Chris
                        <----Rimfire Addict


                        Originally posted by Oceanbob
                        Get a DILLON...

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                        • #27
                          AMProducts
                          Junior Member
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 53

                          Nice pistol, have fun shooting, sounds like everything should go great!
                          Type 10/02 Manufacturer
                          Author of the Ammo Blog http://bulletmaker.blogspot.com

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                          • #28
                            sequoia_nomad
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 803

                            Mine is only about 29,000 older units than yours! Have fun, I love mine, but have a friend on hand to watch where your brass goes. If yours doesn't fling it in every direction, let me know!

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                            • #29
                              XDRoX
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 4420

                              Originally posted by sequoia_nomad
                              Mine is only about 29,000 older units than yours! Have fun, I love mine, but have a friend on hand to watch where your brass goes. If yours doesn't fling it in every direction, let me know!
                              I've heard they can sling some brass. Not good for a reloader. Hey I'm vacationing in Arizona over thanksgiving break. I'll be packin the LCP the whole time I'm there.
                              Chris
                              <----Rimfire Addict


                              Originally posted by Oceanbob
                              Get a DILLON...

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                              • #30
                                theduece
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 768

                                I loaded for my .45 before I got it. Actually got to test the rounds and about had the load 100% before the ten day was up..... Got to love brea indoor!

                                Also have 9mm dies that I don't shoot or load for yet... .38 complete setup Along with a spare toolhead with .357 dies.
                                ......

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