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  • Crazyhorse
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 2377

    Decapping/sizing question

    Yeah, I'm just a bit new to this and trying to get a setup going for like 2k+ handgun reloads a month. I have some experience with handloading for rifle hunting and in the past I have always decapped, brush primer pocket, toss in a tumbler, size, prime and powder, then crimp. The Dillon 550 says it sizes and decaps on the first stage. Is there a way to decap without sizing at the same time? A lot of my brass is dirty and I don't want it to get jammed. I think would rather decap, brush, and tumble with some polish to clean and lube them for sizing.

    Thoughts?

    Thanks a ton,
    CH
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    CSACANNONEER
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    • Dec 2006
    • 44094

    You could set up a decapping die on a separate head and just decap. I've loaded 100s of 1000s of pistol rounds and I have never cleaned or uniformed a primer pocket on pistol brass. I'd just tumble it and then run it through your new 550 using carbide dies (I like Dillon dies) without lubing the brass!
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    • #3
      Crazyhorse
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2007
      • 2377

      Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
      You could set up a decapping die on a separate head and just decap. I've loaded 100s of 1000s of pistol rounds and I have never cleaned or uniformed a primer pocket on pistol brass. I'd just tumble it and then run it through your new 550 using carbide dies (I like Dillon dies) without lubing the brass!
      So you tumble with the primer in place?

      Thanks for the response,
      CH

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      • #4
        CSACANNONEER
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        • Dec 2006
        • 44094

        Yep, I tumble with spent primmer in place.
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        • #5
          ar15barrels
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 57187

          My process from birth to death of a pistol cartridge:

          Pickup brass off the range.
          Sort into batches of same cartridge (9mm with 9mm, 40 with 40 etc.)
          Tumble clean.
          Place in casefeeder of appropriate Dillon press.
          Place loaded rounds in appropriate ammo can.
          Load mags from ammo can.
          Empty mags with appropriate firearm.
          Repeat from the top of the list.
          Randall Rausch

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          • #6
            randy
            In Memoriam
            • Nov 2006
            • 4642

            Originally posted by ar15barrels
            My process from birth to death of a pistol cartridge:


            Tumble clean.
            Place in casefeeder of appropriate Dillon press.
            Place loaded rounds in appropriate ammo can.
            Load mags from ammo can.
            Empty mags with appropriate firearm.
            Repeat from the top of the list.
            I do what Randall does except the first two steps. I get once fired WinClean brass that doesn't always need to be tumbled. Otherwise listen to him.
            I move slow but I make up for it by shooting poorly.

            When I hit the lotto I'm only shooting factory.

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            • #7
              rksimple
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2006
              • 6257

              Tumble first. Don't worry about the primer pocket. And get a carbide die so you don't need lube (straight wall stuff).
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              • #8
                wildcard
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2006
                • 4927

                Originally posted by rksimple
                Tumble first. Don't worry about the primer pocket. And get a carbide die so you don't need lube (straight wall stuff).
                You don't NEED lube.. but it sure as heck makes things smoother. But back to reloading.. I still use lube even with carbide dies

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                • #9
                  Crazyhorse
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 2377

                  LoL..

                  Thanks a ton guys, I'm going to do some scouting for a 550 this weekend

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                  • #10
                    rksimple
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 6257

                    Originally posted by wildcard
                    You don't NEED lube.. but it sure as heck makes things smoother. But back to reloading.. I still use lube even with carbide dies
                    After umpteen thousands of 45's, 9's and 38's through a dillon, I have never used case lube, and never had "smoothness" issues. Maybe I'm lucky.
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                    • #11
                      wildcard
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 4927

                      Originally posted by rksimple
                      After umpteen thousands of 45's, 9's and 38's through a dillon, I have never used case lube, and never had "smoothness" issues. Maybe I'm lucky.
                      Hmm.. well I admittingly have only reloaded 44 magnum rounds for my revolver if that makes any difference. Its a pain to size those things on my single stage w/o lube.

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                      • #12
                        rksimple
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 6257

                        Originally posted by wildcard
                        Hmm.. well I admittingly have only reloaded 44 magnum rounds for my revolver if that makes any difference. Its a pain to size those things on my single stage w/o lube.
                        Could make a difference, especially if they were some stout loads.
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                        • #13
                          wildcard
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 4927

                          Originally posted by rksimple
                          Could make a difference, especially if they were some stout loads.
                          That they were. 24 grains of of H110 sitting behind a 240 grain bullet if I recall correctly.

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                          • #14
                            ar15barrels
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 57187

                            Originally posted by wildcard
                            That they were. 24 grains of of H110 sitting behind a 240 grain bullet if I recall correctly.
                            That's a REALLY stout load.
                            I stop at 23.0
                            23.5gr was painful after a 40 round sillouette match.
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                            • #15
                              wildcard
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 4927

                              Originally posted by ar15barrels
                              That's a REALLY stout load.
                              I stop at 23.0
                              23.5gr was painful after a 40 round sillouette match.
                              Yup.. it's my entertainment load.. but then again by barrel is Mag-Na-Ported so it's managable up to 50 rounds. If I want to plink but yet still feel the boom.. I go with 21 gr. Else 23.5 Is a nice load without pushing the limits of the Sierra manual

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