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  • cpatbay
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 1631

    TAC's loading data is too conservative?

    I am trying to load some test loads for my AR with Sierra 60 gr 223 remington HP and TAC.

    While researching load limits, I found (as usual) two sources of data that were not close. The data from TAC recommends 22.1 to 24.6 gr while Sierra's data for AR is from 23.4 to 25.8 gr. Seems like TAC is very conservative or is it? What's puzzling is that TAC's data says muzzle velocity is 3102 f/s at 24.6 gr of TAC while Sierra says 3000 f/s with 25.8 gr of TAC. So who should I believe?

    I guess I could just go low but some real world loading recommendations would be very helpful. Thanks.
    NRA Lifer

    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason
    for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort,
    to protect themselves against tyranny in government - Thomas Jefferson


  • #2
    XDRoX
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 4420

    Originally posted by cpatbay
    I am trying to load some test loads for my AR with Sierra 60 gr 223 remington HP and TAC.

    While researching load limits, I found (as usual) two sources of data that were not close. The data from TAC recommends 22.1 to 24.6 gr while Sierra's data for AR is from 23.4 to 25.8 gr. Seems like TAC is very conservative or is it? What's puzzling is that TAC's data says muzzle velocity is 3102 f/s at 24.6 gr of TAC while Sierra says 3000 f/s with 25.8 gr of TAC. So who should I believe?

    I guess I could just go low but some real world loading recommendations would be very helpful. Thanks.
    I load 25gr under 55gr FMJ. I have chrono data if you want it I can post it.
    Chris
    <----Rimfire Addict


    Originally posted by Oceanbob
    Get a DILLON...

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    • #3
      bohoki
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 20825

      their testing is with a different bullet i suppose

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      • #4
        smalltime
        Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 208

        Ramshot's data was tested with a 24" 1/12 barrel Winchester Small Rifle Primer and Sierra lists 20" 1/7 HBAR AR-15 Remington 7 1/2 Primer. Ramshot's data for that bullet is within 223 pressure (55,000 psi) while Sierra's data is for 5.56 (62,000 psi)
        Last edited by smalltime; 10-15-2011, 2:51 PM.

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        • #5
          cpatbay
          Senior Member
          • May 2011
          • 1631

          Originally posted by smalltime
          Ramshot's data was tested with a 24" 1/12 barrel Winchester Small Rifle Primer and Sierra lists 20" 1/7 HBAR AR-15 Remington 7 1/2 Primer. Ramshot's data for that bullet is within 223 pressure (55,000 psi) while Sierra's data is for 5.56 (62,000 psi)
          Good point. Since I am loading for AR, I should be able to use Sierra's AR loading data, right?
          NRA Lifer

          No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason
          for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort,
          to protect themselves against tyranny in government - Thomas Jefferson


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          • #6
            EL_NinO619
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 1519

            Originally posted by cpatbay
            Good point. Since I am loading for AR, I should be able to use Sierra's AR loading data, right?
            Yes. But I would start at 25gr, load 10 see if they cycle. They should cycle and stick with that. For accuracy just under max is the best performer.

            My load, which is XDRoXs also...

            55 Hornady FMJ
            24.5gr of TAC
            CCI 200
            Case length 1.750
            COAL 2.230
            FPS 3130
            se carga el diablo de la pistola...
            .223, .25acp, 25-20win, 9mm, 38spl/.357, 10mm .308, 8mm M, 7mm Rem Mag, 45acp, .475 Wildey mag
            On 2 Hornady LnL AP & Dillon Super 1050

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