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  • Rugerdaddy
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Dec 2006
    • 685

    FMJ vs. Plated

    I'm sure this has been covered, but my search didn't turn up anything.

    I have been loading FMJ only, but am considering plated to save costs. What are your opinions on plated? Thanks.
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    bumpo628
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 1142

    FMJ at www.precisiondelta.com is typically cheaper than most plated companies offerings.
    Free shipping if you order in increments of 2000 pcs. Otherwise, I believe it is only $5 shipping.
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    • #3
      Dark Mod
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 4284

      Originally posted by bumpo628
      FMJ at www.precisiondelta.com is typically cheaper than most plated companies offerings.
      Free shipping if you order in increments of 2000 pcs. Otherwise, I believe it is only $5 shipping.
      +1 with the exception of .357, for some reason they only sell lead projectiles

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        ShootinMedic
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 826

        Montana gold bullets are pretty cheap jacketed bullets too. You have to buy them by the case to get the best price though.
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        • #5
          Rugerdaddy
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          • Dec 2006
          • 685

          Originally posted by bumpo628
          FMJ at www.precisiondelta.com is typically cheaper than most plated companies offerings.
          Free shipping if you order in increments of 2000 pcs. Otherwise, I believe it is only $5 shipping.

          Holy cow! $76.00 per thousand! That IS cheaper than the cheapest plated I could find. How do they do it? I noticed the bottom of the bullet is not plated, as opposed to the Rainier I've been using. Does that present any issues?
          Last edited by Rugerdaddy; 10-14-2011, 11:43 AM.
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            BajaJames83
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            • Jun 2011
            • 6037

            I've loaded quite a few berrys plated bullets without any issues. I generally load them to a mid range fmj load data. And no +P
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              Rugerdaddy
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              • Dec 2006
              • 685

              Originally posted by ShootinMedic
              Montana gold bullets are pretty cheap jacketed bullets too. You have to buy them by the case to get the best price though.
              I checked out the website, and you have to buy a case (as you mention- 3,750 or 4,000 depending on grains) to get the price down to about $80/1,000. That is much better than I have been paying, though.
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                EL_NinO619
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 1519

                I pretty much only shoot Berry's Plated in my pistol rounds. You have to load them between Lead and FMJ. I have loaded near max with no notice of the bullet keyholeing or overpressure. I usually just take the FMJ starting load, say 5.2, and for plated I use 5.0. I really like the Berrys Hollow Base 185gr .45acp. Grafs.com has a good stock of them and $4.95 flat shipping aint bad..
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                  Rugerdaddy
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 685

                  Originally posted by EL_NinO619
                  I pretty much only shoot Berry's Plated in my pistol rounds. You have to load them between Lead and FMJ. I have loaded near max with no notice of the bullet keyholeing or overpressure. I usually just take the FMJ starting load, say 5.2, and for plated I use 5.0. I really like the Berrys Hollow Base 185gr .45acp. Grafs.com has a good stock of them and $4.95 flat shipping aint bad..
                  I've been using 124 gr, 9mm, FMJ. My first load was light, 3.6 gr of Bullseye, but I got some misfeeds because the slide on my Ruger SR9c wouldn't cycle all the way due to its stiff spring. I raised the powder to 4.0 gr and have not had a single problem since. That's still not a hot load, but I suppose I could go back to 3.6 and try it again with plated. Or, do you think maybe 4.0 is still OK?
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                    bumpo628
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 1142

                    Originally posted by Rugerdaddy
                    Holy cow! $76.00 per thousand! That IS cheaper than the cheapest plated I could find. How do they do it? I noticed the bottom of the bullet is not plated, as opposed to the Rainier I've been using. Does that present any issues?
                    There is supposed to be less lead released into the air when a TMJ is fired compared to an FMJ. However, that doesn't take into account what happens when the bullet hits the backstop. Or the lead released from the primer. I don't think it makes a difference at all and I just buy whatever is cheapest.
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                      Rugerdaddy
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 685

                      Originally posted by bumpo628
                      There is supposed to be less lead released into the air when a TMJ is fired compared to an FMJ. However, that doesn't take into account what happens when the bullet hits the backstop. Or the lead released from the primer. I don't think it makes a difference at all and I just buy whatever is cheapest.
                      Ah! TMJ vs. FMJ. "Now I see!", said the blind man when he hit the post.
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                      • #12
                        shinbone
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                        • Dec 2009
                        • 281

                        I get better accuracy from FMJ. I get more runout with plated. Probably because plated is soft, so the bullet doesnt center as well by the seating cone.

                        But the cool thing about plated is when you shoot during dusk outdoors, and they light the range, the light reflects off the back of the bullets.. they look like tracers!
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                        • #13
                          Rugerdaddy
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 685

                          Originally posted by shinbone
                          I get better accuracy from FMJ. I get more runout with plated. Probably because plated is soft, so the bullet doesnt center as well by the seating cone.

                          But the cool thing about plated is when you shoot during dusk outdoors, and they light the range, the light reflects off the back of the bullets.. they look like tracers!
                          If you ever get the opportunity to fire an M-60 machine gun with tracer rounds, you'll look at all those rounds flying down range and think, "SH**, I'd hate to be on the receiving end of that fire!" Then you remember that only one out of every five rounds is a tracer, and you try to wrap your mind around how many rounds are REALLY flying down range!
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