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  • Hogxtz
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 592

    OAL variation question

    I am loading 223 with 55 fmjbtw/c. I resized the brass on a Dillon with a Dillon trimmer and the tool head is secured to the frame. Seating bullets with a RCBS die in a secured tool head ao the same press. Seating to 2.200

    The problem is I am still getting OAL variations from 2.16 to 2.30

    I know its not from any play in my press. I called RCBS thinking the plug in my die doesnt fit the bullets I am using correctly. The RCBS tech told me this is normal because of the variation of the concentric part of the bullet and the plating.

    Than he said something I didnt understand. He said the seating depth will still be same and said something about the "ogive" measurement or something like that. He explained it twice but I still didnt get it.

    How can the seating depth be the same if the concentric part of the bullet varries the way it contacts the plug in the seating die? This makes no sense to me at all.

    The bullets are mil-spec bulk from wideners. I assume its just low quality bullets, but the Hornandy 55's do the same thing. Am I wrong in expecting to get more accurate consistency in seating? The variations are great enough that I see more exposed cannelure on some loads, than less on others.

    The Tech also said the amount of OAL variation I am getting is not enough to cause pressure increases.

    These loads are for a 2 day carbine class so precise accuracy is not my concern. But I was concerned if I am loading towards only .3 grains from the max load reccomendation, would the OAL variation cause a dangerous increas in pressure?
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    damndave
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Oct 2008
    • 10858

    Originally posted by Hogxtz
    I am loading 223 with 55 fmjbtw/c. I resized the brass on a Dillon with a Dillon trimmer and the tool head is secured to the frame. Seating bullets with a RCBS die in a secured tool head ao the same press. Seating to 2.200

    The problem is I am still getting OAL variations from 2.16 to 2.30

    I know its not from any play in my press. I called RCBS thinking the plug in my die doesnt fit the bullets I am using correctly. The RCBS tech told me this is normal because of the variation of the concentric part of the bullet and the plating.

    Than he said something I didnt understand. He said the seating depth will still be same and said something about the "ogive" measurement or something like that. He explained it twice but I still didnt get it.

    How can the seating depth be the same if the concentric part of the bullet varries the way it contacts the plug in the seating die? This makes no sense to me at all.

    The bullets are mil-spec bulk from wideners. I assume its just low quality bullets, but the Hornandy 55's do the same thing. Am I wrong in expecting to get more accurate consistency in seating? The variations are great enough that I see more exposed cannelure on some loads, than less on others.

    The Tech also said the amount of OAL variation I am getting is not enough to cause pressure increases.

    These loads are for a 2 day carbine class so precise accuracy is not my concern. But I was concerned if I am loading towards only .3 grains from the max load reccomendation, would the OAL variation cause a dangerous increas in pressure?

    Measuring base to tip is one of the worst ways of measuring. Just from machining tolerances the bullet length can be way off explaining the .14. Measure from Base to ogive for an accurate reading.

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    • #3
      Sub95
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 1227

      This reloading article shows the importance of bullet shape (ogive), and how to accurately measure one of the most important locations on a rifle bullet using our Digital Headspace Gauge. Be aware that sometimes the shape of your bullets is not always uniform.


      you will need to buy a tool to read the ogive. like this

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      • #4
        Hogxtz
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 592

        Ohh.... OK. Thank you for the info. I understand it know. And thank you for the links. Very helpfull. I learned something important today.
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