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  • Sideline Shooter
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 514

    Flawed brass???

    Got about 1/2 a bucket of once fired Federal .308 rifle brass. After polishing some of the brass I noticed a ring just below the shoulder. It almost looks like a tiny weld mark. I watched a few videos on how rifle brass is made, so I know it is not the shoulder seperating from the case body. Could this be a quality control thing where the case wasn't polished all the way smooth of any excess brass? Anyone else run into this or even notice this?

    sideline shooter
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    buffybuster
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 2615

    Luck favors the prepared.

    The original battle plan did not survive initial contact with the enemy.

    "The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." -Theodore Roosevelt

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    • #3
      Sideline Shooter
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 514

      Yes I know, no pics but my camera bites and I can't get a good focused close up of the flaw. I tried to take some but they all sucked.

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      • #4
        five.five-six
        CGN Contributor
        • May 2006
        • 34883

        I swear that when I saw the thread title, it said "flawless bras"

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        • #5
          sequoia_nomad
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 803

          Like this?

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          • #6
            bumpo628
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 1142

            Sounds like discoloration from annealing. No big deal.
            Just tumble it for 6 hours or so and it will go away.
            Ronald Reagan once said that the most terrifying words in the English language are: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help".
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            • #7
              sequoia_nomad
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 803

              Discoloration is no big deal, like Bumpo said. When I hear "small weld mark" I picture a sloppy line of slag. As others have stated,

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              • #8
                Sideline Shooter
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 514

                I polished up some more of that brass. Now I got to thinking. The "weld" mark is raised, enough to see it and feel it with my fingernail. Could there possibly be a crack in the rifles chamber and brass is flowing into the crack when fired, thus marking this mark? Some cases have more of a "weld" than others but all are in the same area?

                Think of a 7mm mag case with the brass ring at the bottom near the case head. No it's not standing out that much, just enough to notice.

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                • #9
                  bumpo628
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 1142

                  Originally posted by Sideline Shooter
                  I polished up some more of that brass. Now I got to thinking. The "weld" mark is raised, enough to see it and feel it with my fingernail. Could there possibly be a crack in the rifles chamber and brass is flowing into the crack when fired, thus marking this mark? Some cases have more of a "weld" than others but all are in the same area?

                  Think of a 7mm mag case with the brass ring at the bottom near the case head. No it's not standing out that much, just enough to notice.
                  Now you're going to have to post a picture just to satisfy our curiosity.
                  Have someone take a cell phone pic and email it to you.
                  Ronald Reagan once said that the most terrifying words in the English language are: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help".
                  Download my alloy calculator here: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=105952

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                  • #10
                    bruceflinch
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 40127

                    You have the Patience of the Pope Bumpo! Good suggestion!

                    Now where the heck is that pic!!!
                    Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

                    I belong to the group that uses firearms, and knows which bathroom to use.

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                    • #11
                      Sideline Shooter
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 514

                      And just when you thought this thread was dead! Ok I tried to take pictures with my crummy camera and I could not get a detailed photo. A buddy takes a few pictures with his cell phone. The phone gets stolen before he can send them to me! Dang it!!

                      Anyways I started giving that flawed brass out to reloaders to see what their opinions were. A few agreed that it could have been a cracked chamber. But a new light has been shed on the problem. Looks like the chamber reamer got bumped when the chamber was being cut and the reamer cut a groove in the chamber. So now some of the brass has been sent to the range where it was collected to try to find the rifle. I also dropped some light into the casing and saw that it had "streched" or "thinned out" where the brass flowed in to the groove. So now I thought I had a few hundred free cases, now I have to really do a tedious inspection on all the cases to see how many I will be left with. Oh well, at least I learned something new.

                      sideline shooter

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