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  • Endofcomment
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    • Apr 2011
    • 411

    Press mounted priming options

    Ok I started with a lee reloading kit including the lee hand priming unit which I am comfortable using but I am getting diminished accuracy with my hand loads. I think it might have something to do with my bullet seating not bring concentric so I bought a redding comp seating die. As I am always looking to improve quality of my reload I am thinking of getting a press mounted priming unit like a ram unit as I plane on purchasing a redding t-7 turret to make things easier as far a die changes. Is the slide bar priming unit good enough on the redding to get consistent primer seating depths or should I go ram? Are their other options to a ram primer that feeds primers instead of having to drop one in at a time?
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    bruceflinch
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    • Jan 2006
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    I don't think primer seating is that critical in accuracy, IMO. I prefer to hand prime my rifle rounds instead of the Rockchucker accessory.
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    • #3
      stphnman20
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      • Feb 2005
      • 6583

      Forget a turret, get yourself a progressive press.

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      • #4
        sksman777
        Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 404

        Want accuracy get a single stage. As for priming I use the Lee Ram Priming Unit.

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        • #5
          22popnsplat
          Senior Member
          • May 2008
          • 1042

          I have primed countless cases with the lee hand prime tool over the last 30 years and dont think you will see a improvment in accuracy with a change in priming tools. I recently changed to a rcbs 9460 simply because of arthritis and am still getting used to setting primers with it . being able to "feel the primer seat" i think is important
          Look into more detailed brass prep and load development to improve accuracy , a good read is the book "Pecision shooting reloading guide" . More geared towards shooting a rifle but much applies to any reloading.

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            Endofcomment
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            • Apr 2011
            • 411

            Dag nabit!! If priming isn't that huge of a concern with reloading for accuracy think I might just have been convinced to get a progressive! I had been pondering it and researching which progressive but was gonna wait till I get a bigger place that way I could have the turret and the progressive but I think I will just get a hornady l-n-l ap.. Thanks a lot for helping me spend my money!!!

            Will still be keeping my single stage for de-priming as I clean after de-capping in an ultra sonic cleaner.

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            • #7
              Bill Steele
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2010
              • 5028

              Originally posted by Endofcomment
              Dag nabit!! If priming isn't that huge of a concern with reloading for accuracy think I might just have been convinced to get a progressive! I had been pondering it and researching which progressive but was gonna wait till I get a bigger place that way I could have the turret and the progressive but I think I will just get a hornady l-n-l ap.. Thanks a lot for helping me spend my money!!!

              Will still be keeping my single stage for de-priming as I clean after de-capping in an ultra sonic cleaner.
              If you are going to get a Hornaday LnL AP, Allied Armory posted a link on another thread to Graf and Sons. They have a special on right now for the LnL AP plus they always have $5 shipping, I have not seen that press for less than they are offering right now, even used. Hell of a deal.

              If you go that way, be sure to download the Free 500 bullet redemption form from Hornaday. The choice of bullets is limited, but it still has to be worth $100+.

              Good luck.

              PS - I hand prime all my rifle rounds.
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              • #8
                noylj
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 713

                I see most people who are attempting to be as perfect as possible go with hand priming and single-stage and check every case at every step.
                Those who actually like to spend time shooting, tend to be users of the Lee Classic Turret with auto-index or go to a progressive.
                I have never seen any effect on target from priming operations, provided the primer is seated flush or below the case head (and a gorilla hasn't crushed the primer like an aluminum can in a can crusher).
                I know one reloader who uses a single-stage press for sizing, an RCBS bench-top priming unit to prime, and a Lee Pro 1000 to finish the round.
                There is no best way.

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                  • Apr 2011
                  • 411

                  Bill thanks for the suggestion. This may not happen in a timely manor, I also have to see what kind of price my LGS can get it for me for as I am a big support the little guys kinda guy!

                  I had forgotten about their bullet rebate though thank you for reminding me.

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                  • #10
                    Endofcomment
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                    • Apr 2011
                    • 411

                    Well you guys done did it!! I bought the hornady ap press should be here early next week

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                    • #11
                      popeye4
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 1534

                      Those that are finicky about accuracy take the press priming systems off and go to hand priming, not the other way around. I would never recommend on-press priming for a sinle stage press. I always clean my primer pockets before seating a new primer, so it is all just another step in my case prep routine.

                      Primer seating isn't really an accuracy issue, it is a safety issue, particularly with gas guns (rifles). A high primer can lead to lots of unplanned excitement. I need to make sure they are all seated to the proper depth. With dirty pockets, my XL650 didn't always do the job, so I don't bother loading rifle rounds on that machine any more.
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                      • #12
                        Bill Steele
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                        • Sep 2010
                        • 5028

                        Sweet

                        Originally posted by Endofcomment
                        Well you guys done did it!! I bought the hornady ap press should be here early next week
                        Now the bad news... your components invoices are going to get a lot more frequent and bigger on the bottom line!

                        Have fun.
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                        • #13
                          Justintoxicated
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 3836

                          Originally posted by popeye4
                          Those that are finicky about accuracy take the press priming systems off and go to hand priming, not the other way around. I would never recommend on-press priming for a sinle stage press. I always clean my primer pockets before seating a new primer, so it is all just another step in my case prep routine.

                          Primer seating isn't really an accuracy issue, it is a safety issue, particularly with gas guns (rifles). A high primer can lead to lots of unplanned excitement. I need to make sure they are all seated to the proper depth. With dirty pockets, my XL650 didn't always do the job, so I don't bother loading rifle rounds on that machine any more.
                          I have the hand primer and prefer priming on the press with the Hornady feed tubes on my single stage. It's both faster and I get more consistent results than if I attempt to hand prime.

                          I have also read that in come cases proper primer seating can make more difference than a grain of powder variance in a load.

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                          • #14
                            sequoia_nomad
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                            • Mar 2010
                            • 803

                            Originally posted by Bill Steele
                            Now the bad news... your components invoices are going to get a lot more frequent and bigger on the bottom line!

                            Have fun.
                            +1 Here is where you should support the local guys, components.

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                            • #15
                              Fyathyrio
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 1082

                              If your equipment and components haven't changed, perhaps the accuracy issue is weapon or eyesight related?

                              Congrats on the LnL AP! I have enjoyed mine, and if you happen to be in the San Diego area, I'd be happy to show you it and the couple tricks I've come up with that make things easier.
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