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  • Diabolus
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 4710

    Dillon 650 & Redding Type S dies

    Any reason I shouldn't be using Type S dies in a progressive reloading machine?

    Thanks
  • #2
    XDRoX
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 4420

    Originally posted by Diabolus
    Any reason I shouldn't be using Type S dies in a progressive reloading machine?

    Thanks
    They'll work, but are not necessary. If bench rest accuracy is what you're after then a single stage is probably a better choice. If you already have the dies and just don't want to buy other ones, yes they'll work fine.

    Another thing that a lot of people don't realize. Progressives have a lot more play in them than SS's. If you've ever experienced a "snag" as the case catches the edge of the sizing die on the way in, it can be quite a hassle. Competition dies usually have much tighter tolerances making the snag more likely.

    This is where the Dillon sizing die excels. It has a much larger mouth than other brands. The bad is it doesn't completely size the whole case. The good is it runs extremely smoothly and never snags the cases.
    Chris
    <----Rimfire Addict


    Originally posted by Oceanbob
    Get a DILLON...

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    • #3
      Diabolus
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 4710

      Originally posted by XDRoX
      They'll work, but are not necessary. If bench rest accuracy is what you're after then a single stage is probably a better choice. If you already have the dies and just don't want to buy other ones, yes they'll work fine.

      Another thing that a lot of people don't realize. Progressives have a lot more play in them than SS's. If you've ever experienced a "snag" as the case catches the edge of the sizing die on the way in, it can be quite a hassle. Competition dies usually have much tighter tolerances making the snag more likely.

      This is where the Dillon sizing die excels. It has a much larger mouth than other brands. The bad is it doesn't completely size the whole case. The good is it runs extremely smoothly and never snags the cases.
      Thanks for the info, and yes, I am trying to save money. I've seen some great pictures of peoples reloading benches, and until I got into this hobby, I never realized how much money they have sitting on their bench.

      I'm only reloading for .308, .223, and 9mm, and it has costed a small fortune.

      My match .308 and .223 will be done on a co-ax, but I also want to blaze through some .223 on my Dillon.
      Last edited by Diabolus; 07-08-2011, 10:15 AM.

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      • #4
        XDRoX
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 4420

        It sounds like you have a pretty expensive rig yourself. Me and my buddies do the same thing. We load 223 on a progressive and the bigger calibers on SS's.

        You may want to consider an RCBS X-die for 223, as it will make it so you don't have to trim your brass anymore. After one initial trimming, no more is required with an X-die. Really the best way to load rifle on a progressive.
        Chris
        <----Rimfire Addict


        Originally posted by Oceanbob
        Get a DILLON...

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        • #5
          XDRoX
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 4420

          The X-Sizer Die features a specially designed mandrel that eliminates the need for repeated trimming after an initial trim of .020" off the maximum case length. The mandrel contacts the case mouth during sizing and reduces the growth rate. Because of an extremely close tolerance between the mandrel and die neck wall, the neck wall of the case does not thicken as the case length is pushed back. Cases repeatedly sized in the X-Die will initially grow a few thousandths of an inch, then stabilize below the maximum case length with no discernable loss of accuracy or case life. Shellholder sold separately.

          Chris
          <----Rimfire Addict


          Originally posted by Oceanbob
          Get a DILLON...

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          • #6
            popeye4
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 1534

            Originally posted by XDRoX
            This is where the Dillon sizing die excels. It has a much larger mouth than other brands. The bad is it doesn't completely size the whole case. The good is it runs extremely smoothly and never snags the cases.
            Hmmm, I understood that the Dillon .308 and .223 sizing dies were essentially small base sizers?
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            • #7
              XDRoX
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 4420

              Originally posted by popeye4
              Hmmm, I understood that the Dillon .308 and .223 sizing dies were essentially small base sizers?
              You may be correct. I know that my pistol dies have bigger mouths than my other brands, but you may be correct about the rifle ones. I have Dillon 223 dies but have never measured.

              Thanks for the correction.
              Chris
              <----Rimfire Addict


              Originally posted by Oceanbob
              Get a DILLON...

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