conversation question

[WDE91]

Well my step dad and I were talking guns last night and the topic of a squib load/ bullet in the barrel came up

My step dad suggested the idea of using a blank cartridge to dislodge the stuck bullet
I responded with No thats a horrible idea pressure has to vent and could cause issues
Im thinking anything from as small as hairline cracks to graphic grenade

I have seen what happens when people leave bore sighters in and fire a shot
rather graphic display of pressure

We have neither tried this or have a bullet stuck in a barrel
Just for conversation

On this topic who is correct??
Thank you for your help

[Cokebottle]

You are correct.

Don't do it.

Completely "safe" the weapon and push the bullet out with a cleaning rod or wooden dowel.

[Gowking]

You are correct.

Don't do it.

Completely "safe" the weapon and push the bullet out with a cleaning rod or wooden dowel.

+1, brass rod or wood dowel to push the bullet out.

-G

[WDE91]

ya a brass rod with a dead blow hammer
tap tap tap pop

so we have narrowed down what should be done
but
the thing Im more interested is the idea of damage from built up pressure

Do you think damage would be likely?

[Cokebottle]

ya a brass rod with a dead blow hammer
tap tap tap pop

so we have narrowed down what should be done
but
the thing Im more interested is the idea of damage from built up pressure

Do you think damage would be likely?

Potential damage to the gun or your face.

Remember, a "blank" is not simply a cartridge with the bullet removed. There is wadding/wax as well.

[GeoffLinder]

Never, ever try to blast a squibbed bullet out of a barrel. Push or tap it out only!

[gunboat]

If I understand you correctly - the use of a blank cartridge to clear a squib from the bore -- A blank uses such a fast burning powder that any restriction will raise internal pressures very high. Severe damage could well be the result --

[LGB Loader]

Well my step dad and I were talking guns last night and the topic of a squib load/ bullet in the barrel came up

My step dad suggested the idea of using a blank cartridge to dislodge the stuck bullet
I responded with No thats a horrible idea pressure has to vent and could cause issues
Im thinking anything from as small as hairline cracks to graphic grenade

I have seen what happens when people leave bore sighters in and fire a shot
rather graphic display of pressure

We have neither tried this or have a bullet stuck in a barrel
Just for conversation

On this topic who is correct??

While all are correct to say "do not do this", there is a famous case where a
squib was cleared by the use of a blank cartridge with no harm done to the side arm during the filming of a movie called "The Crow"...

In Memory of Brandon Lee -- R.I.P. the son of Sensei Bruce Lee

Best not to mess around with squibs and tap out as per above posts.

LGB

[DarthSean]

While all are correct to say "do not do this", there is a famous case where a
squib was cleared by the use of a blank cartridge with no harm done to the side arm during the filming of a movie called "The Crow"...

Wait, was it an actor pretending there was a squib or was someone using live ammo on the set?

[WDE91]

Well that case of Brandon Lee was him being killed by a squib load/projectile

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Lee#Death

[Cokebottle]

Wait, was it an actor pretending there was a squib or was someone using live ammo on the set?

Neither.

They had manufactured dummy loads by removing the bullets, dumping the powder, and putting the bullets back in (left the primers intact).
They used these for, I would presume, close-up shots of a revolver where the bullets are visible in the chambers.

Apparently, someone fired one of the primers and the bullet did not clear the barrel... OR one of the bullets dislodged from the casing and ended up in the barrel.

Later, when they were using blanks in one of the early scenes in the movie, the blank pushed the bullet out of the barrel.

When the movie was released, everyone assumed that he was killed shooting the scene in the bad guy's warehouse where 8 or so people were shooting at him, but it was actually one of the first scenes in the movie.



And people on Calguns wonder why I keep repeating "Don't be cheap, spend the $20" when they start talking about making dummy rounds and painting them orange. Pure stupidity.

[LGB Loader]

In other words, a squib load left undetected was fired out of a barrel by a blank cartridge, did not destroy the gun, but instead, killed an innocent bystander.

Again, I cannot stress the importance of having your wits about you when handloading, and if you are finding squib loads in your handloads, you need to stop and re-evaluate your process because squibs kill. Period.

Again, R.I.P Brandon Lee

LGB

[LGB Loader]

When the movie was released, everyone assumed that he was killed shooting the scene in the bad guy's warehouse where 8 or so people were shooting at him, but it was actually one of the first scenes in the movie.

The scene is where Brandon Lee's character (Eric Draven) walks in on a gang in his house beating and raping his girl friend. He was shot as he entered the door by the charactor "Funboy". They have the actual fatal shooting on film somewhere but it was not used in the film out of respect for Brandon and his family and Fianc'ee. I hope that cut of film is never released.

LGB

[killshot44]

Even blanks can kill. An actor named John Eric Hexum in '84. He was going to be huge, was screwing around during a filming break and BOOM.

Squibs freak me out. Like a grenade with the pin out.