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  • em9sredbeam
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 3429

    9mm Recipes? 124 gr Montana gold and hogdon tightgroup

    Anybody got any recipes for 9mm 124 gr montana gold bullets and hogdon tightgroup powder?
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    Bill Steele
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2010
    • 5028

    If I were you, I would go to the Hodgdon web site and use the load data for the Sierra 125gr FMJ. The start load on that site is 4.1grs and the minimum OAL is 1.090" (I would load a little longer like 1.130").

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    • #3
      jimmykan
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 3077

      here is an entry from my load test log:

      Date: 11/14/10
      Temperature: 66 F
      Caliber: 9MM
      Gun: GLOCK 19
      Bullet: 124 FMJ
      Powder: HOD TTGRP
      Powder Weight: 4.4 grains
      Primer: WIN SP
      Brass: IMI
      Cartridge OAL: 1.085"
      Velocity Avg: 1127.9 fps
      Velocity Es: 45.0 fps
      Velocity Sd: 14.1 fps
      5 shots chronographed

      4.4 grains is Hodgdon's maximum recommended charge weight. I think next time I load up a batch, I'll back it down to 4.2 grains.

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      • #4
        peels
        Junior Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 3

        Recently did a sweep from 3.8 to 4.2 gr tightgroup (at 0.05 gr increments) and 124gr MG CMJ at 1.145 COL. Used Win SPP, once fired Speer cases.

        10 shot groups were the tightest at 4 grains. At 3.8, it barely cycled the my Sig and it sprayed all over the place. No failures of any sort though, but did notice a couple of cases dribbling down instead of ejecting to the right at 3.8/3.85 gr. YMMV.

        Next will be a COL sweep at the 4/4.1 range to see if there are accuracy changes.
        Last edited by peels; 06-12-2011, 9:50 PM. Reason: corrected increments

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        • #5
          noylj
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 713

          Peels:
          you were using a 0.05gn interval? You couldn't have meant a 0.5gn increment, since that is larger than your loading range.
          A 0.3gn interval is about the smallest that will produce a statistical difference.

          em9sredbeam:
          Unless you are loading 9mm minor for IDPA or whatever (well below Max loads), I would recommend a slower powder--no slower than AA5 and going up to Silhouette/Power Pistol. Watch out for any powder that does not have at least 1.0gn from start to max load.
          One of the "best" 9x19 powders, in my opinion, is Herco. It fills the case and gives a great balance of velocity, accuracy, and pressure.
          Fast powders can get real spooky in that little 9x19 case and any bullet set-back will raise pressure to very high (KB) levels.
          Use powder company recipes and, if possible, use at least two reloading manuals and start with the lowest starting load from multiple sources. You and your gun need to determine what works for you--this is particularly true for COL.

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          • #6
            Toy4Rick
            Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 269

            Hey there,

            We load 3.9 grns under the same bullet/powder and it seems to work very well in a Beretta 92FS and PX4 Storm.

            Good luck
            Toy4Rick

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            • #7
              peels
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 3

              Originally posted by noylj
              Peels:
              you were using a 0.05gn interval? You couldn't have meant a 0.5gn increment, since that is larger than your loading range.
              A 0.3gn interval is about the smallest that will produce a statistical difference.
              Yeah, I meant 0.05 increment. Thanks for catching that.

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              • #8
                ciscosixgun
                Member
                • May 2008
                • 372

                3.5-3.7gr tite group to make 130-132 minor power factor for uspsa production depends on your gun. Using Win primers.

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                • #9
                  ciscosixgun
                  Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 372

                  Oh, using a G 34 with a reduced power recoil spring. Shoots like a BB gun.

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                  • #10
                    Hans Gruber
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 1901

                    I load the following and make 135pf in my Glock 34:

                    MG 124gr JHP
                    Mixed brass
                    Federal SPP
                    1.130 OAL
                    4.0gr Titegroup
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                    • #11
                      Viagrow
                      Junior Member
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 92

                      Originally posted by Hans Gruber
                      I load the following and make 135pf in my Glock 34:

                      MG 124gr JHP
                      Mixed brass
                      Federal SPP
                      1.130 OAL
                      4.0gr Titegroup
                      I too am using 4.0 grains of TG out of my Sig226 Blackwater Tac with very good results.

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