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  • hylander
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 3850

    Never Mind

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    Last edited by hylander; 08-29-2007, 5:37 PM.
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    ryang
    Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 497

    Most gun experts would recommend against using "roll your own" ammo for PD. Something about the prosecution claiming your "extra powerful rounds" prove intent to kill rather than stopping a threat.

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    • #3
      markymark
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 1295

      LOL at prosecution. Bullets aren't meant to kill but to merely tickle the threat into submission.

      What do they expect when you put two to the chest?

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      • #4
        Franksremote
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Dec 2006
        • 992

        +1 on not loading your own PD ammo. There'll be enough BS to deal with if you need to shoot someone, no need to compound it with BS about your "killer" load. JMO

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        • #5
          Budd
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 543

          Originally posted by markymark
          LOL at prosecution. Bullets aren't meant to kill but to merely tickle the threat into submission.

          What do they expect when you put two to the chest?
          ROFL - my thoughts as well. If you handload for all/most of your guns - I would be skeptical they can use this line of prosecution against you.

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          • #6
            Glock22Fan
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2006
            • 5752

            Ideally, find out what your local law enforcement uses, and use that. Hard for the prosecutors to demonize that choice.
            John -- bitter gun owner.

            All opinions expressed here are my own unless I say otherwise.
            I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

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            • #7
              StukaJr
              Member
              • Nov 2006
              • 369

              If you "roll your own" ammo - there is no way for ballistics tests to be done, in case the investigation calls for the tests. Ammo left in your gun is "evidence" and can't be destroyed - the technicians can't acquire ammo that would act as facsimile.
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              • #8
                hylander
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 3850

                Never Mind
                Last edited by hylander; 08-29-2007, 5:37 PM.
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                • #9
                  Glock22Fan
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2006
                  • 5752

                  So by that statement they can't say who shot the bad guy, seeing how they can't do ballistics to match the bullet to the gun.
                  Of course they can; they use one (or more) of their own bullets fired through your gun. The poster just said they can't use your bullets you left in your gun.

                  As far as law inforement loads, they choose loads their loads that are designed to stop a man IE: "Kill"
                  And you don't want to stop the man? You want to achieve something that law enforcement doesn't? My friend, you are treading slippery slopes here, and whether that was the question or not, we would be failing in our reponsibilities to you, and to the world at large, if we didn't point it out.
                  John -- bitter gun owner.

                  All opinions expressed here are my own unless I say otherwise.
                  I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

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                  • #10
                    StukaJr
                    Member
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 369

                    So you want the ammo for training purposes and not for leaving it in your Magazine for HD/just in case/Carry purposes? Good - as long as we are clear on that.

                    My response was based on an assumption I've made that re-creating a "PD load" is for causing most tissue damage and not accuracy/sporting purposes - thus it led me to believe that it's a defensive ammo you are looking to create.

                    As per your load - get stats on the PD factory ammo from manufacturer's website, find similar velocity and ft/lbs, start 10% less and work your way up.

                    And yeah, work on your "lingo" just in case - it's bad ju-ju.
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