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  • #31
    Prc329
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2006
    • 5603

    That is the one I ordered.

    Oh wait, it isn't. I'll call right now
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    • #32
      PistolPete75
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2007
      • 5230

      Originally posted by ar15barrels
      You do realize that all the slack goes away when the cases are all pushed up into the dies right?
      Are you measuring OAL to the bullet tips?
      If so, you are never going to get consistent readings as the bullets themselves are NOT all the same length.
      You need to be measuring length to the Ogive.
      THEN you will get consistent measurements.

      If the slack really bothers you, it's really easy to add two setscrews under the press to eliminate the slack.
      This won't change the OAL variation though.

      As for differences in headspace of sized brass, this is a matter of the different hardness of the brass.
      You will see different sizing lengths in all presses that's attributed to press and brass deflection.

      The best cure is the redding competetion shellholders that allow "hard sizing" with the adjustability of headspace.

      The Forester is a very strong press, but it won't account for differences in brass hardness.
      If you keep using different kinds of brass, you are still going to have to adjust the sizing die differently to obtain the same headspace with each type of brass.

      My suggestion is to buy a big batch of the SAME TYPE of brass.
      ya, i'm having issues with FC brass right now. it expands way too much. lupua tends to hold well. nosler is holding up really well too. i'm going to stick with these two brass only.

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      • #33
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57144

        Originally posted by Prc329
        According to Midway the Forster Bench Rest Full Length Sizer Die has an "Elevated expander button allows better alignment of case and neck".
        That's a very worthy feature, but you need to properly adjust the die to use that feature.
        With a sized case fully inserted, back the decapping stem out of the die until the expander button touches inside the case.
        Then run the decapping stem back down one to two turns.
        This will position the expander button so that it expands the case neck while the top of the case neck is still in the neck portion of the die.
        Last edited by ar15barrels; 08-22-2007, 10:50 AM.
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        • #34
          wildcard
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2006
          • 4917

          Originally posted by Prc329
          Here is the set he bought.



          According to Midway the Forster Bench Rest Full Length Sizer Die has an "Elevated expander button allows better alignment of case and neck". It does not mention the .002
          Thats probably just a selling point for all their full length sizer dies. As for the .002 check out the forster wesite. http://www.forsterproducts.com/Pages/dies_order.htm

          You'll notice an "*" next to the national match. Go down to the bottom of the page and you'll see what the footnote for the "*"

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          • #35
            PistolPete75
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2007
            • 5230

            Originally posted by wildcard
            Patience isn't your thing is it?

            National Match will size cases .002" shorter. I'm not sure what effect this will have on your case, chamber, accuracy etc. I'm sure somebody will chime in shortly.

            patience is not my virtue.

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            • #36
              PistolPete75
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2007
              • 5230

              all good, i'm getting the dies changed out right now.

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              • #37
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57144

                Originally posted by PistolPete75
                ya, i'm having issues with FC brass right now. it expands way too much.
                This is a known issue with FC brass.
                It's softer.

                You don't have a die or press problem, you have a brass problem.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                • #38
                  PistolPete75
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 5230

                  all good, i want a single stage press just for my .308

                  i'm going to use my 550 for my pistol calibers.

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                  • #39
                    wildcard
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 4917

                    I have to trim my Federal after every other load. It's a little more work but I get good accuracy and it works for me. Got a stockpile of the stuff from the factory FGMM i've fired. Plus I get other people's when I can at the range

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                    • #40
                      PistolPete75
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 5230

                      Originally posted by wildcard
                      I have to trim my Federal after every other load. It's a little more work but I get good accuracy and it works for me. Got a stockpile of the stuff from the factory FGMM i've fired. Plus I get other people's when I can at the range
                      i've seen his grouping. capable of 1/2 moa.

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                      • #41
                        Prc329
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 5603

                        Done deal.
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                        • #42
                          Prc329
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 5603

                          I have some wolf brass that I used in a load that gave me 5 shot .5 group.
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                          • #43
                            PistolPete75
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 5230

                            i'm doing 1 moa right now. sometimes i get .5 but it's not consistant for me yet.

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                            • #44
                              Prc329
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 5603

                              BHA brass (winchester) has been pretty consistent. I think it will need to be trimmed after 2 loads though. The wolf seems to grow about the same. All my federal brass after one reload needs to be trimmed. Way to long. I haven't measured the LC I have.
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                              • #45
                                Timberwolf
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 6275

                                FGMM is good brass, yeah its soft and you have to watch your primer pockets, they tend to stretch. As a note those 1 hole groups I was getting on Sunday was with FGMM 3x reloaded brass with 168 AMAXs.
                                I'm only smiling at you while you talk to me because it's hilarious that you really think I give a crap about you.

                                As I've gotten older I thought I was gaining patience, then I realized I simply don't give a crap.

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