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  • ronas
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 758

    223 brass out of spec after full length resizing

    I have some 223 brass that is out of spec after I full length resized it. It is 1.745". Is such brass generally disgarded? I use this brass for precision shooting out to 800 yards so it's loaded to max charge to a little above the max recommended in reload manuals.
  • #2
    anyracoon
    Veteran Member
    • May 2006
    • 3682

    Trim it! I always trim after I resize my brass for rifle.

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    • #3
      ronas
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 758

      Trim it! I always trim after I resize my brass for riflle
      Does not need to be trimmed it's to short.

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      • #4
        D.carden
        Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 189

        It'll load just fine if you FL sized it.......I've picked up LOTS of range brass that was under 1.75 after sizing. I dont recall which brand (remington?) but were consistantly short.......Might not be the best for a precision load, but it will shoot.

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        • #5
          Low-Pressure
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 1758

          Originally posted by D.carden
          It'll load just fine if you FL sized it.......I've picked up LOTS of range brass that was under 1.75 after sizing. I dont recall which brand (remington?) but were consistantly short.......Might not be the best for a precision load, but it will shoot.
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            joelogic
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2008
            • 6592

            I trim to 1.740" and sometimes you can find LC that is 1.735". Trimming to 1.740" gives me a more consistent crimp on the canalure because I find once fired brass to be on the short side. Plus I wouldnt call it out of spec. 1.750" is max length, not all brass will stretch to it just because its been sized.
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            • #7
              Agustav
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2008
              • 1172

              The brass is probably not going to help you on accuracy, but they are safe to shoot. Depends on what firearm you are using, you might not notice any different in accuracy.

              I reloaded brass that are a little too short (1.740"), and they shoots sooty. The top 1/3 of the brass is covered in light shoot.

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              • #8
                Beelzy
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2008
                • 9224

                That's a good thing, a couple of extra loadings before you have to trim them.

                It's common for Factory cases to be a tad short, Federal especially so.
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                • #9
                  ireload
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 2589

                  Originally posted by joelogic
                  I trim to 1.740" and sometimes you can find LC that is 1.735". Trimming to 1.740" gives me a more consistent crimp on the canalure because I find once fired brass to be on the short side. Plus I wouldnt call it out of spec. 1.750" is max length, not all brass will stretch to it just because its been sized.
                  Actually 1.750" is the trim lenght and 1.760 is the max lenght.

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                  • #10
                    ireload
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 2589

                    Originally posted by ronas
                    I have some 223 brass that is out of spec after I full length resized it. It is 1.745". Is such brass generally disgarded? I use this brass for precision shooting out to 800 yards so it's loaded to max charge to a little above the max recommended in reload manuals.
                    You can still use the brass. After a couple of firing it will be longer than 1.745". It may not be precision shooting brass till you get the length you seek.

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                    • #11
                      Ahhnother8
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 1454

                      Originally posted by ronas
                      I have some 223 brass that is out of spec after I full length resized it. It is 1.745". Is such brass generally disgarded? I use this brass for precision shooting out to 800 yards so it's loaded to max charge to a little above the max recommended in reload manuals.
                      It does not matter, as .005" has no affect on accuracy. Trim them all to this length if you worry about consistency.

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                      • #12
                        ronas
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 758

                        Trimming to 1.740" gives me a more consistent crimp on the canalure
                        I shot almost exclusively SMK 77s and some SMK 69s and they have no cannalure.

                        I may save this shorter brass for 62 grain bullets as this is now my shorter range blasting ammo. I don't like to shoot the 55 grain stuff since it's so inaccurate in my rifle.

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                        • #13
                          CEDaytonaRydr
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 4108

                          Originally posted by ronas
                          I have some 223 brass that is out of spec after I full length resized it. It is 1.745". Is such brass generally disgarded? I use this brass for precision shooting out to 800 yards so it's loaded to max charge to a little above the max recommended in reload manuals.
                          Some guys are using that RCBS "X-Die" and trim to below the "trim to" length. When they re-size the brass, it won't allow the brass to go out of spec. It actually forms the length down with each Full-length sizing. If they're shooting a semi-auto and their brass goes flying, you might find some of that brass at the range. It sometimes takes a few firings to get the brass back out to the "trim to" length; maybe 2-3 firings.

                          Possible explanation...

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                          • #14
                            Ahhnother8
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 1454

                            Originally posted by ronas
                            I shot almost exclusively SMK 77s and some SMK 69s and they have no cannalure.
                            If you are shooting 69's and 77's out to 800 yards, you have MUCH more to worry about than a .005" variation in brass length.

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