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  • ronas
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 758

    Speer 62 grain bullet problem

    I have a box of Speer 62 g FMJBT w/cannalure,Speer part number 1050. LC brass is trimmed to 1.755". Bullet is to be seated to 2.255". Problem is with that seating depth the cannalure is fully exposed, i.e., not used. See photo.

    I seated them to exactly 2.255". The other round in photo is 62 grain Golden West bullet, excellent bullet by the way, and I seated it to 2.255 also and it is on the cannalure as I would expect it to be.

    What might be going on here? I'm thinking maybe the Speer is a new bullet and they have just not gotten it right yet.
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  • #2
    PatriotnMore
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2007
    • 7068

    Did you measure the OAL of both rounds and the cannalure height from base on both?
    ‎"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions."
    --James Madison
    'Letter to Edmund Pendleton', 1792

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    • #3
      ronas
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 758

      Did you measure the OAL of both rounds and the cannalure height from base on both?
      Yes I had measured both rounds for OAL and they were both exactly 2.255"

      I just measured the cannalure height from the base of each bullet to the middle of the cannalure. Golden West is .302" and Speer is .352".

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      • #4
        PatriotnMore
        Calguns Addict
        • Nov 2007
        • 7068

        What does the speer manual say the seating depth should be?
        ‎"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions."
        --James Madison
        'Letter to Edmund Pendleton', 1792

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        • #5
          ronas
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 758

          What does the speer manual say the seating depth should be?
          Don't see anything that says seating depth. But it does say COAL tested: 2.255".

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          • #6
            Low-Pressure
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 1758

            It'll be ok to shoot, just crimp them as you would normally do.
            I bought some blemished bullet and the cannalure was all over the place. Each one went bang
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            • #7
              PatriotnMore
              Calguns Addict
              • Nov 2007
              • 7068

              Does it state what the OAL of the brass should be?

              ETA was the OAL listed, the speer book brass OAL?
              Last edited by PatriotnMore; 04-10-2011, 9:24 AM.
              ‎"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions."
              --James Madison
              'Letter to Edmund Pendleton', 1792

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              • #8
                Fjold
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Oct 2005
                • 22829

                Build your loads to fit your gun not the manual. The cannelure height doesn't matter.
                Frank

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                • #9
                  ronas
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 758

                  Does it state what the OAL of the brass should be?
                  Max. Case Length: 1.760", Trim-to Length: 1.750", Max. Cart. OAL 2.260" This is the general infor in manual about case.



                  ETA was the OAL listed, the speer book brass OAL?
                  Not sure wha this means. Is it the 1.760" figure?

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                  • #10
                    PatriotnMore
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 7068

                    Originally posted by ronas
                    Max. Case Length: 1.760", Trim-to Length: 1.750", Max. Cart. OAL 2.260" This is the general infor in manual about case. Not sure wha this means. Is it the 1.760" figure?

                    You're currently 1.755, not that .005 is going to be a noticeable difference. I was asking if you are using loading data from Speer, and is 1.755 the given trim length.

                    I am sure you're fine to shoot it the way it is.

                    I should have just asked which reloading book you are using, if it is speer, and you have trimmed and measured as they instructed, just shoot it.
                    ‎"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions."
                    --James Madison
                    'Letter to Edmund Pendleton', 1792

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                    • #11
                      Low-Pressure
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 1758

                      The 1.760" is the maximum length for the brass. You should trim your brass to 1.750".
                      ...with liberty and justice for all. Void where prohibited, offer not valid everywhere, price may change. See Big Brother for details.
                      Originally posted by zfields
                      9mm might expand but .45 never shrinks!
                      Originally posted by bwiese
                      Constitutional rights are not dependent on your neighbors' opinions'.
                      If you shop at Amazon.com please use the link below. A portion of your purchase goes to CGF.
                      http://www.amazon.com/?_encoding=UTF...reative=390957

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                      • #12
                        ronas
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 758

                        You're currently 1.755, not that .005 is going to be a noticeable difference. I was asking if you are using loading data from Speer, and is 1.755 the given trim length.
                        Yes I am using data from Speer and they give trim length at 1.750"



                        I am sure you're fine to shoot it the way it is.

                        I should have just asked which reloading book you are using, if it is speer, and you have trimmed and measured as they instructed, just shoot it.
                        Yes I am using the Speer #14 reloading manual. I just bough some of the Speer 62s because I wanted to shoot a quality bullet. 55 g bullets shoot poorly in my rifle. I usually shoot SMK 69s and SMK 77s neither of which have cannalure. I don't crimp them either. If just seems like a waste of money to buy Speer 62 with cannalure when you can not use it and when the cannalure as large as it is probably effects ballistics.

                        I'll just stick with the Golden West bullets, they are very consistent and shoot well and are less expensive than the Speers.

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