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  • bollero
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 1039

    38 special and 357 mag powder

    What do you guys recommend for powder for both calibers?
  • #2
    Bill Steele
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2010
    • 5028

    Ignore the man behind the curtain...

    What do you want to do with your loads. Light/accuarte target? Kill a Boar? What bullet type, etc.

    Makes a big difference.

    Oh and ignore anyone that says WST.
    Last edited by Bill Steele; 04-02-2011, 11:19 PM.
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    • #3
      XDRoX
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 4420

      Originally posted by Bill Steele
      What do you want to do with your loads. Light/accuarte target? Kill a Boar? What bullet type, etc.

      Makes a big difference.

      Oh and ignore anyone that says WST.
      Ya, hard to pick a powder to use in 38spl and 357. For 38spl I love Trail Boss. For 357 I like Unique and 2400 for full powered loads. My pet 38spl load only goes about 650fps and recoils like 22. But it's accurate and clean.

      I don't shoot much 357, but 2400 will load them hot when you need them.
      Chris
      <----Rimfire Addict


      Originally posted by Oceanbob
      Get a DILLON...

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      • #4
        CEDaytonaRydr
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 4130

        Originally posted by XDRoX
        Ya, hard to pick a powder to use in 38spl and 357. For 38spl I love Trail Boss. For 357 I like Unique and 2400 for full powered loads. My pet 38spl load only goes about 650fps and recoils like 22. But it's accurate and clean.

        I don't shoot much 357, but 2400 will load them hot when you need them.
        Good suggestions here...

        Trail boss is a "bulky" powder so it fills the case and can lead to very accurate rounds. Not the best option for jacketed bullets, though. For those applications, stick with Unique or 2400.

        I think 2400 is one of the most underrated powders on the market. It does great things for magnum caliber pistol rounds!!!

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        • #5
          savasyn
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 3201

          I use Hodgdon HP38 and Universal Clays. They both work great for medium performance rounds, but you're not going to get the fastest muzzle velocities from either. If you just want range rounds, these are fine choices.

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          • #6
            Fishslayer
            In Memoriam
            • Jan 2010
            • 13035

            If it ain't broke, etc.

            For .38 & light bullet .357 I use Bullseye (sometimes Green Dot) & for the 158gr Big Dog magnum loads it's 2400. Been around for years & there's a ton of load data available.

            I stay away from light bullet/slow powder combos.

            Originally posted by CEDaytonaRydr
            I think 2400 is one of the most underrated powders on the market. It does great things for magnum caliber pistol rounds!!!
            I wouldn't say it was underrated. 2400 was the go to powder for magnum loads when I was a kid and is still one of the top 2 or 3 (if not #1) in terms of popularity.
            Last edited by Fishslayer; 04-03-2011, 6:51 AM.
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            • #7
              bollero
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 1039

              looking to make loads for target practice and boar hunting.. what kind of bullet to use?

              I like round nose for target like
              Berry's 38/357 158 gr Round Nose Double Struck ?

              what about boar hunting? a JHP

              i really don't wanna use to many lead bullets thought my python..

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              • #8
                XDRoX
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 4420

                Originally posted by bollero
                looking to make loads for target practice and boar hunting.. what kind of bullet to use?

                I like round nose for target like
                Berry's 38/357 158 gr Round Nose Double Struck ?

                what about boar hunting? a JHP

                i really don't wanna use to many lead bullets thought my python..
                Can't help you there. I shoot lead exclusively in 38spl and 357.
                Chris
                <----Rimfire Addict


                Originally posted by Oceanbob
                Get a DILLON...

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                • #9
                  drdarrin@sbcglobal.net
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 2219

                  for target shooting in my 357, I use 148 gr wadcutters in front of Bullseye.
                  Can't comment on boar hunting with a 357.
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                  • #10
                    Bill Steele
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 5028

                    For target shooting in both .357 and .38, I like either 148 gr. wadcutters or 158gr semi-wadcutters. I shoot a lot of Bullseye under these bullets. The downside to light target rounds with both these cartridges is the volume of the case versus the amount of powder you meter in. Unless you are really confident about your process and have eliminated double charges as a possibility, going with a really light powder like Trail Boss is a great idea, you can see it (it is light in color) and it is not dense so you will have more in the case to see. 2.8 grains of Bullseye is waaay down there in that .38 case.

                    I shoot almost exclusively with lead in my .357 and .38's. Get some Big 45 Frontier or one of those Lewis Lead Removal kits for when you get some leading. If you really don't like lead, Berry's makes some plated wadcutters in this caliber, maybe a perfect fit for you.

                    If you are serious about hunting boar with a handgun, I think I might want something with a bigger hole, but I have always been kind of a frady cat when it comes to getting close to one of the big mothers.

                    In any case, if you are hunting pigs with a handgun, I would think penetration considerations would be more important than expansion considerations. Maybe a fullhouse .44 using some hardcast heavy slugs might be a good place to start.
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                    • #11
                      rmblaster
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 1088

                      I use Bullseye for 38 special with a 148gr wadcutter and unique for 357 full power loads

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                      • #12
                        ireload
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 2589

                        For target app I use Win 231. For med to max load I use Unique. But most times I use Unique.

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                        • #13
                          DesertGunner
                          Member
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 336

                          How much trail boss for a 148gr Wadcutter?

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                          • #14
                            XDRoX
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 4420

                            Originally posted by DesertGunner
                            How much trail boss for a 148gr Wadcutter?
                            I love my 148gr Trail Boss recipe. I'll check the data I use when I get home for you. I've chrono'd my rounds at 650fps. Feels like 22 and very accurate from my 4" Smith.
                            Chris
                            <----Rimfire Addict


                            Originally posted by Oceanbob
                            Get a DILLON...

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                            • #15
                              CEDaytonaRydr
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 4130

                              Originally posted by Fishslayer
                              I wouldn't say it was underrated. 2400 was the go to powder for magnum loads when I was a kid and is still one of the top 2 or 3 (if not #1) in terms of popularity.
                              I dunno. I have a hard time finding it on the shelf. I also don't hear a whole lot of people talking about it on here, or other websites. Lot's of W296 users, but not many people talking up 2400...

                              Maybe it's just me...

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