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  • #31
    zfields
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2010
    • 13658

    Originally posted by AEC1
    I have never had a problem with my Lee Pro 1000. I think every story I have heard has been Dillion...
    Im a known lee fanboy, and i love to say how great they are, but they have the same issues with federal primers. In the lee manuals, they say specificaly NOT to use federal.
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    • #32
      chim-chim7
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 1845

      Originally posted by AEC1
      I have never had a problem with my Lee Pro 1000. I think every story I have heard has been Dillion...
      What does that have to do with anything?

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      • #33
        Chief-7700
        Veteran Member
        • May 2008
        • 3382

        Been waiting for the Richard Lee followers to show up. Now we need the RCBS, Lyman, Star, Hornady, CH, Camdex, Redding to chime in.

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        • #34
          HighLander51
          Banned
          • Feb 2010
          • 5144

          That case looks like WCC NATO with the little plus stamped inside the circle. Those are crimped. Wouldn't have made any difference what primer was used.


          Been waiting for the Richard Lee followers to show up. Now we need the RCBS, Lyman, Star, Hornady, CH, Camdex, Redding to chime in.

          Of course, they have the built in crimped and Berdan primer pocket detector and sound a loud warning to the operator. But the camera, processor and software would cost 10 times as much as the loader...

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          • #35
            zfields
            CGN Contributor
            • Aug 2010
            • 13658

            Originally posted by Chief-7700
            Been waiting for the Richard Lee followers to show up. Now we need the RCBS, Lyman, Star, Hornady, CH, Camdex, Redding to chime in.
            There has been one that has made a anti dillion comment.

            Relax.
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            • #36
              Chief-7700
              Veteran Member
              • May 2008
              • 3382

              Originally posted by zfields
              There has been one that has made a anti dillion comment.

              Relax.
              I'm very relaxed! Just don't like the followers of Richard Lee's reloading presses
              jumping into a thread about Dillon reloading machines, because those systems are very different.

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              • #37
                zfields
                CGN Contributor
                • Aug 2010
                • 13658

                how you think we feel about with the 023734923408701283 dillion guys jumping in ours?
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                • #38
                  Chief-7700
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 3382

                  Originally posted by zfields
                  how you think we feel about with the 023734923408701283 dillion guys jumping in ours?
                  Guess the Dillon uses outnumber the Lee users.

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                  • #39
                    sammy
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 3847

                    This is very common with Dillons. They are built to take just this sort of thing. You might want to remove the tube from the primer magazine. It is probably toast as well. Notice how thick the outer steel housing is on the tube housing. It is steel while the inner tube is aluminum which is designed to split reliving the pressure. If it was steel more than likely the plastic piece that left a dent in your ceiling might have made it through the sheetrock. This is probably the biggest gripe I hear about Dillons but a small price to pay for an occasional detonation. Besides they will ship you all the replacement parts you need for free. Be safe, Sammy

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                    • #40
                      SixPointEight
                      Veteran Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 3788

                      Originally posted by Chief-7700
                      Guess the Dillon uses outnumber the Lee users.
                      But why can't we all just get along? You drive a ferrari, I drive a vette, you drive by and we both say nice car?

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                      • #41
                        sargenv
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 4620

                        Had one Federal primer go off in my 650! That was the last Federal primer I ever used.
                        That's ok, in my case, it's Federal or I have to put my competition revolver back to factory specs since it won't reliably fire anything else.. Personally, it happens so seldom that I don't worry about it.. there is a reason Dillon armor plates that primer magazine.. and why they will replace it.. 12 years loading on the 650, 100's of thousands of rounds loaded and "knock on wood", no issues..

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                        • #42
                          chim-chim7
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 1845

                          I just want to know why that some think this is a Dillon problem? It's pretty obvious that a primer was swedged into a crimped pocket. I bet there was some serious resistance felt before it went boom. This was definately a component issue. The same could happen to any machine.

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                          • #43
                            Diabolus
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 4727

                            Originally posted by chim-chim7
                            I just want to know why that some think this is a Dillon problem? It's pretty obvious that a primer was swedged into a crimped pocket. I bet there was some serious resistance felt before it went boom. This was definately a component issue. The same could happen to any machine.
                            There was no resistance and I was going very slowly.

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                            • #44
                              bumpo628
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 1142

                              There's a theme here:
                              Federal primers are soft and can explode under normal use. It's got nothing to do with the brand of press.

                              I guess that's why Lee says not to use them on their old style hand primer. The way the ram was designed it was possible to clip the edge of a primer. Could you imagine an entire tray of primers chain reacting in your lap? I'd rather not. The new one can use any primer, btw.
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                              • #45
                                crazychinaman
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 1557

                                I had that happen about three years ago.with federal primers on my 650.Dillion replaced everything and gave it a tune up for free except shipping the whole unit to them in Arizona.It looked new when it came back. I have three Dillion reloaders Two square deals for pistols and one 650 for .308. Both square deals have been totally rebuilt by dillion because I cracked the frame on both.Had them about twenty fives years a piece and over million rounds reloaded with no problems except the craked frame. Glad to see that you are Ok..

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