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  • Which Way Out
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 1330

    Reload cost

    Ok once you have all the tools and are set up, Whats your cost to produce 1 round ? Not including labor
    I am interested in 5.56/.223 and 9mm myself. I know individual parts go up and down in cost so I am not looking to have a perfect number. Just whats been the average + or - 2 or 3 cents.
    Feel free to add other calibers as well
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    rsrocket1
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 2769

    .08 for .224 55g fmjbt $40/500
    .03 for SR primer $30/1000
    .06 for 25g H335 powder @$135/8lbs
    case is free (either pick up or amortized over 6-8 reloads @0.05/6 = $0.01)

    so $0.17/shot for a round customized to shoot better than factory ammo.

    .223, 9mm, 7.62x54R, 7.62x39 are hard to beat commercial loads, but it can be done and when you have a good sized stash, you don't worry about how many rounds you shoot.

    When reloading some of the other rounds that approach $1/shot, you can quickly make up for the cost of a modest reloading set up.

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    • #3
      CSACANNONEER
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      • Dec 2006
      • 44094

      9mm or, any pistol round I reload from .25acp to .44mag, costs me about 2.5-4.5 cents per round. I cast, size and lube my own bullets, use range pick up brass and buy primers and powder in bulk.

      .223 costs about 11 cents per round using today's prices for surplus pulled bullets, bulk primers and surplus bulk powder.

      I'm sure that you can cut the cost down a little more by shopping around but, that gives you a qiuck idea.
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      • #4
        Which Way Out
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 1330

        Originally posted by rsrocket1
        .08 for .224 55g fmjbt $40/500
        .03 for SR primer $30/1000
        .06 for 25g H335 powder @$135/8lbs
        case is free (either pick up or amortized over 6-8 reloads @0.05/6 = $0.01)

        so $0.17/shot for a round customized to shoot better than factory ammo.

        .223, 9mm, 7.62x54R, 7.62x39 are hard to beat commercial loads, but it can be done and when you have a good sized stash, you don't worry about how many rounds you shoot.

        When reloading some of the other rounds that approach $1/shot, you can quickly make up for the cost of a modest reloading set up.
        Wow what a big difference. I think I will be able to use this info to justify to the little woman a re loader.

        Keep em coming in. Thanks
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        • #5
          dls
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 2598

          How long does it take to reload 100 or 500 rounds of .223 ?
          The chair is against the wall...

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          • #6
            ubet
            Senior Member
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2011
            • 1557

            45acp, clays powder, 230 jhp, primer aroun $.14 I dont even count the case cost.

            308win varget, 175gr smk, win case, cci br2 around $.60

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            • #7
              CSACANNONEER
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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              • Dec 2006
              • 44094

              Originally posted by dls
              How long does it take to reload 100 or 500 rounds of .223 ?
              About an hour or so to load 500 rounds on a blue machine. But, that does not count the time it takes to prep the brass. You need to size it, trim it and dubur it before you think about loading it. The time it takes to trim and debur varies greatly depending on what type of trimmer you are using.
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              • #8
                Which Way Out
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 1330

                Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                About an hour or so to load 500 rounds on a blue machine. But, that does not count the time it takes to prep the brass. You need to size it, trim it and dubur it before you think about loading it. The time it takes to trim and debur varies greatly depending on what type of trimmer you are using.
                Yea there's a lot work involved in doing the entire job. I watched a 14 part video posted by a CG member, I think his name was Raymond. Good starting point for me.
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                • #9
                  CSACANNONEER
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                  • Dec 2006
                  • 44094

                  Originally posted by rsrocket1
                  .08 for .224 55g fmjbt $40/500
                  .03 for SR primer $30/1000
                  .06 for 25g H335 powder @$135/8lbs
                  case is free (either pick up or amortized over 6-8 reloads @0.05/6 = $0.01)
                  One vendor (the first one I looked up) has today's prices at:

                  .058 per 55g air pulled surplus
                  .022 per primer at SPP $110/5000
                  .038 per 25g load of WC 844 Pull Down - (Cross reference loading data for H335) at $85/8lbs

                  So, the exact same load is only about 12 cents a round if you shop right.
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                  • #10
                    rsrocket1
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 2769

                    .12 if you don't include shipping or hazmat fee.
                    I was going to go with that guy in Mo, but after seeing the hazmat, shipping and that I just wanted to use retail ball powder rather than risk pulldown powder, I paid the extra $10 for the H335 OTD.

                    You can always find better deals if you do group buy's, cast your own or buy enough for 10,000 bullets at a time rather than 500 to 1000 at a time. I doubt a beginner will be doing this.

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                    • #11
                      CSACANNONEER
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                      • Dec 2006
                      • 44094

                      Originally posted by rsrocket1
                      .12 if you don't include shipping or hazmat fee.
                      I was going to go with that guy in Mo, but after seeing the hazmat, shipping and that I just wanted to use retail ball powder rather than risk pulldown powder, I paid the extra $10 for the H335 OTD.

                      You can always find better deals if you do group buy's, cast your own or buy enough for 10,000 bullets at a time rather than 500 to 1000 at a time. I doubt a beginner will be doing this.
                      Hazmat fees get waved when you buy enough powder/primers. It's not hard to find one or two other people to get your order big enough to wave the $20 fee. But, even with the HM fee, it would only be $105 a jug. The same "55 gr. FMJBT - Air pulled, no marks" are selling for $32/500 $60/1000. CCI#400 Small Rifle Primers are $23/1000. Shipping will increase the cost a couple cents per round but, it's still going to be less than 15 cents/round even if you only buy enough to load 1000 rounds as long as you don't count the cost of the extra powder you'll have left.
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                      • #12
                        Which Way Out
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 1330

                        Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                        Hazmat fees get waved when you buy enough powder/primers. It's not hard to find one or two other people to get your order big enough to wave the $20 fee. But, even with the HM fee, it would only be $105 a jug. The same "55 gr. FMJBT - Air pulled, no marks" are selling for $32/500 $60/1000. CCI#400 Small Rifle Primers are $23/1000. Shipping will increase the cost a couple cents per round but, it's still going to be less than 15 cents/round even if you only buy enough to load 1000 rounds as long as you don't count the cost of the extra powder you'll have left.
                        Speaking of powder, how much is needed to reload 1000 rds of .223
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                        • #13
                          five.five-six
                          CGN Contributor
                          • May 2006
                          • 34895

                          if 22 grains charged, 7000 grains in a pound, just over 3 pounds for 1k

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                          • #14
                            Which Way Out
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 1330

                            No body said there would be math !

                            Thats cool thanks. Luckily I have a great little gun shop within walking distance of my place. I just don't like to bug the owner with a lot of questions like I do with you guys.
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                            • #15
                              MaHoTex
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                              • Jul 2010
                              • 5002

                              Originally posted by Which Way Out
                              Speaking of powder, how much is needed to reload 1000 rds of .223
                              Depends on the type of powder used.

                              Varget is about 26.5 gr/round for .223 with a 55gr FMJBT bullet.

                              For 9mm, I use w231 but mainly Unique and use about 5.2 gr/round for unique, do not know the number I use for w231 off the top of my head.
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