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  • stand125
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 1451

    9mm titegroup load data

    I am really enjoying reloading 45 ACP on my Lee classic loader. I was ordering my daughter an archery set and decided to order a Lee classic loader in 9mm. I plan on using Titegroup since I have it for my 45ACP. So I looked up the Titegroup load data and The 115 grain 9mm load data for LRN is only .5 grains less than the 230 grain 45ACP LRN. It seems like the 230grain bullet would take alot more powder than a 115grain bullet.
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    Bill Steele
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2010
    • 5028

    While it doesn't translate directly from one caliber and bullet to another, generally the heavier the bullet, the lighter the charge.
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    • #3
      xfer42
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Sep 2007
      • 709

      You use less of the same powder for a heavier bullet (same caliber). This is because the bullet will accelerate slower due to the greater mass and the pressure max (pmax) will be higher. In other words, 4.5 grains of X powder may generate 30,000 PSI with a 115 grain bullet, but maybe 50,000 psi pmax for a 145grn bullet. Increasing the bullet weight will cause the pressure to rise because it harder to accelerate.

      You use more powder for the same weight bullet, but bigger caliber. This is because with a bigger bore, the pressure drops faster as the bullet moves. Also there is more surface area on the bullet to get it moving.

      So, the heavier bullet says you need less powder but the larger caliber says you need more. Thats kinda why 12g shotguns use fast burning pistol like powders instead of slow rifle powders. So I guess it magically works out to the same amount of powder for a 240grn 45 and 115grn 9mm.
      Last edited by xfer42; 03-02-2011, 9:55 PM.

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      • #4
        Triple R Munitions
        Banned
        • Jun 2009
        • 1004

        i made up my production loads running titegroup. i run 4.3gr of tite with either a 115gr/124gr projo. chrono's around 1150 +or- from a berreta 92.

        i would not go more then 4.5gr max load.

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        • #5
          xfer42
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Sep 2007
          • 709

          I use 4.2 grn of titegroup and 124gr bullets for 9mm.
          Last edited by xfer42; 03-02-2011, 10:28 PM.

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          • #6
            Toy4Rick
            Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 269

            We use 3.9 grns Titegroup under 115 grn bullet up to 4.4 grns, both work well.

            We are currently loading 3.9 grns under a 124 grn bullet and it works very well.

            My only complaint is how dirty the power is, spent brass is nearly black on the top 1/3

            Toy4Rick

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            • #7
              Low-Pressure
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 1758

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              • #8
                Gryff
                CGSSA Coordinator
                • May 2006
                • 12686

                I've found that 3.6 grains of Titegroup with 125gr. Bear Creek LRN moly coated bullets gives me a velocity range of 1020 to 1048.
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                • #9
                  oddball
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 3068

                  4.0 gr of Titegroup under a 124 gr Montana Gold JHP.
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                  • #10
                    J-cat
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2005
                    • 6626

                    I hate TG.

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                    • #11
                      iareConfusE
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 4464

                      I use 4.5gr TG pushing a 115gr plated bullet. Feels almost about as powerful as a factory load. Might be a bit under.

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