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  • TKo_Productions
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    • Dec 2005
    • 370

    checking headspace on an AR15

    For those familiar with checking the headspace on an AR15 I need a little help.

    I have a new Colt upper that came without a bolt carrier group so I've got to purchase one. A lot of people say that if you have a new barrel and new bolt carrier group that you don't need to check headspace, that everything is already set and checked at the factory. I on the other hand would rather spend the $30 and enjoy the piece of mind knowing that everything is within spec and not destined to blow my face or hand off.

    The general consensus is that when checking headspace you only really need the field gauge, and not the go or no-go gauges. Is this true?

    In addition, people have cited a difference between "commercial" field gauges and "military" field gauges so my questions are:

    1. Do I only need the field gauge to check headspace? or do I also need the go and no-go gauges?

    2. Do I want the commercial .223 gauges? or the military 5.56 gauges?

    3. Do you know if the gauges offered by Bushmaster are the commercial .223 version? or are they the military 5.56 version?

    4. When using the field gauge do I have to completely strip the bolt? or do I just slip the gauge into the chamber and gently (with my hand) try and slide the bolt closed?

    A lot of questions I know, but I can't seem to find the answers anywhere.

    Thanks
    In a letter dated December 28th 2005 Deputy Attorney General Alison Merrilees stated:

    "You should also be aware that we intend to add it soon to the DOJ Assault Weapons Identification Guide. Therefore, the Stag-15 will soon be classified as an assault weapon."

    To Mrs. Merrilees I ask:

    Whats your definition of soon?
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    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 57141

    Originally posted by TKo_Productions
    1. Do I only need the field gauge to check headspace? or do I also need the go and no-go gauges?
    You only need a field gauge.
    Get this one.

    2. Do I want the commercial .223 gauges? or the military 5.56 gauges?
    Get this one.

    3. Do you know if the gauges offered by Bushmaster are the commercial .223 version? or are they the military 5.56 version?
    Don't know, get this one.

    4. When using the field gauge do I have to completely strip the bolt? or do I just slip the gauge into the chamber and gently (with my hand) try and slide the bolt closed?
    You only need to remove the ejector so it's not pushing against the gauge.
    Did I mention to get this gauge?

    More info on headspace gauges used in AR-15's...
    Randall Rausch

    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
    Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
    Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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      ar15barrels
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 57141

      Doubletap.
      Last edited by ar15barrels; 07-24-2007, 4:24 PM. Reason: I like pie.
      Randall Rausch

      AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
      Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
      Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
      Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
      Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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        kg6mti
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        • Apr 2007
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          TKo_Productions
          Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 370

          Originally posted by ar15barrels
          You only need a field gauge.
          Get this one.



          Get this one.



          Don't know, get this one.



          You only need to remove the ejector so it's not pushing against the gauge.
          Did I mention to get this gauge?

          More info on headspace gauges used in AR-15's...
          Randall,

          Sweeeeet! Exactly the information I was looking for. Thanks for the help
          In a letter dated December 28th 2005 Deputy Attorney General Alison Merrilees stated:

          "You should also be aware that we intend to add it soon to the DOJ Assault Weapons Identification Guide. Therefore, the Stag-15 will soon be classified as an assault weapon."

          To Mrs. Merrilees I ask:

          Whats your definition of soon?

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            TKo_Productions
            Member
            • Dec 2005
            • 370

            Originally posted by kg6mti
            PM Sent
            Thanks
            In a letter dated December 28th 2005 Deputy Attorney General Alison Merrilees stated:

            "You should also be aware that we intend to add it soon to the DOJ Assault Weapons Identification Guide. Therefore, the Stag-15 will soon be classified as an assault weapon."

            To Mrs. Merrilees I ask:

            Whats your definition of soon?

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            • #7
              TKo_Productions
              Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 370

              Wow Brownell's ships fast! I ended up receiving the field gauge before the BCG got here.

              Brownell's even includes a little instruction sheet for checking headspace on an AR15, which I found extremely helpful. After disassembling the bolt and slipping in the gauge it looks like everything checks out. I'll probably inspect the first few cartridges for any signs of overpressure, but at least I'm confident enough to put the rifle up to my face.

              I did notice that the lugs lock up ever so slightly (maybe 1/16") but I don't see that as being a problem. Do you think it's a sign of excessive headspace?

              Thanks again Randall.
              Last edited by TKo_Productions; 08-02-2007, 2:40 AM.
              In a letter dated December 28th 2005 Deputy Attorney General Alison Merrilees stated:

              "You should also be aware that we intend to add it soon to the DOJ Assault Weapons Identification Guide. Therefore, the Stag-15 will soon be classified as an assault weapon."

              To Mrs. Merrilees I ask:

              Whats your definition of soon?

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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57141

                Originally posted by TKo_Productions
                I did notice that the lugs lock up ever so slightly (maybe 1/16") but I don't see that as being a problem.
                Note that the lugs have a small chamfer on them.
                You were only engaging that chamfer.
                This is normal.

                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                • #9
                  TKo_Productions
                  Member
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 370

                  Originally posted by ar15barrels
                  Note that the lugs have a small chamfer on them.
                  You were only engaging that chamfer.
                  This is normal.

                  http://ar15barrels.com/tech/lug-chamfer.jpg
                  Ahhh, just took a second look at it and indeed your are correct. Thanks for sharing the wisdom wise one.
                  In a letter dated December 28th 2005 Deputy Attorney General Alison Merrilees stated:

                  "You should also be aware that we intend to add it soon to the DOJ Assault Weapons Identification Guide. Therefore, the Stag-15 will soon be classified as an assault weapon."

                  To Mrs. Merrilees I ask:

                  Whats your definition of soon?

                  Comment

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