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  • #16
    wbrosha
    Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 373

    For the amount you are looking at reloading I would honestly start with just a Classic LEE Loader in .308 get it from amazon.com it will obviously take more time and not be as accurate as a press but it will definitely do the job. I used one for a year with a good old no marring mallet and a cut 2X4 and loved it! I might be crazy but to me it was relaxing and a kind of stress reliever to an extent. Just be careful reloading gets addicting QUICK!! Now im up to reloading 5 different rounds.
    A peace sign is really only a middle finger and a trigger finger away---- Think about it!

    Wylie B.

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    • #17
      bohoki
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 20820

      i do not recommend the lee loader for autoloading firearms

      but it is fun for revolvers and bolt guns

      reason being i got one for my 30 carbine and did about a hundred and at the range they just didnt have enough oomp to cycle with the little scoop they gave even a heaping scoop

      also that one in the video just neck sized the pistol ones need lube and a bit more force

      another thing you either need to use boattail bullets or champher the case a tad otherwise you may get a crushed mouth occasionally

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      • #18
        anto
        Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 444

        Might I suggest this then:

        $90 Lee Challenger Anniversary Kit
        $5 Lee Case length gauge .308

        and:

        $25 Lee Pacesetter .308 dies
        OR
        $18 Lee RGB .308 dies

        Total:
        $120 or $113 off midwayusa for a kit that will last you and hold it's resale value fairly well. For case cleaning you can always wash them with some simple green & water.
        OH

        add in a few bucks for case lube ( lanolin + 99% Iso alcohol works well)
        Last edited by anto; 02-17-2011, 12:38 PM.

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        • #19
          rsrocket1
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 2768

          Originally posted by anto
          Might I suggest this then:

          $25 Lee Pacesetter .308 dies
          OR
          $18 Lee RGB .308 dies
          If you get the RGB, add $5 for a shell holder. If your .308 is a bolt action, the extra $6 over the Pacesetter for the Lee Deluxe Rifle die set gives you the choice of full length resizing or neck sizing only which will make your cases last longer.

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          • #20
            Cowboy T
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2010
            • 5725

            Originally posted by bumpo628
            Here's the cheapest single stage press you can get at $29.
            An outstanding value. Exclusive balance lever that can't drop down to pinch your fingers. Unlimited hand clearance that only a "C" frame can offer. Works equally well with the right or left hand. Even if you already own a press, an extra press is always useful for decapping, bullet seating or bullet sizing. Accepts standard 7/8 x14 thread dies and standard Universal Press Shell Holders.  Press includes one Breech Lock quick change bushing. Can be mounted to the Lee Bench Plate system, sold separately.




            It can use the dies you mentioned.
            That was my first press, and it had no trouble with resizing .30-06 (did it once just to try it), nor does it have any trouble resizing the tens of thousands of cast boolits that I regularly put through it these days. I've made much .357M and .45 Colt on it, and my cameralady has made much .38 Special on it. It's a good little press.

            It also comes in a $32 kit from Midway that includes both the press and the Lee reloading book.

            "San Francisco Liberal With A Gun"
            F***ing with people's heads, one gun show at a time. Hallelujah!
            http://www.sanfranciscoliberalwithagun.com (reloading info w/ videos)
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            • #21
              EmmaGoldman
              Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 369

              absolute minimum cost is the Lee classic loader. Obviously there are lots of other relatively inexpensive options.

              Even with the loader, a scale is a pretty good idea.
              Left, not "liberal", not what gets called "left" in American politics, Actually Left, like the government shouldn't be set up to favor certain groups, radically and fanatically left, like the ideas in the American Constitution (except that crap about 3/5ths of a person).

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              • #22
                LGB Loader
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 727

                I have to admit that I have never handloaded for savings, I learned because you can make custom ammo for a specific firearm. If I was trying keep my costs to a minimum, the Lee 50th anniversary kit with Lee deluxe dies (full sizer, neck sizer, and seater) would be the way to go. I would also buy at least 2 manuals. I recommend the Lyman 49th and the Sierra. I would even upgrade the scale (although the Lee scale does work but a bit too slow). I would also buy the case gauge for the Lee trimmer

                This would be the minimum.

                The whackamole Lee loader is a great little tool but eventually, that 308 Win brass will require the shoulder to be pushed back or pitched if you have a bolt gun. If you have an semi auto, you will need to full size every single time.

                Hope this helps.

                LGB
                Training in The Peaceful Art to achieve unnatural naturalness and natural unnaturalness, BEcoming WATER while serving The Great I AM.

                John 3:16

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                • #23
                  sbjmg
                  Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 363

                  People keep mentioning the type of gun, it is a bolt gun. Not that it matters as the consensus I am getting is that I need to invest in this and the whack a mole is not the route to go. I just did not want to get too involved as I hardly shoot due to location. I just got excited when I saw the video of the guy whacking ammo in 40 seconds and though even if it took me a minute per round (after I get proficient) that would be great. I only intend on loading 308 and only for one rifle (my howa 1500).

                  Thanks for all the info guys.

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                  • #24
                    Cowboy T
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 5725

                    Bolt gun? Then the Lee Classic Loader ("whack a round") would be a fine choice.
                    "San Francisco Liberal With A Gun"
                    F***ing with people's heads, one gun show at a time. Hallelujah!
                    http://www.sanfranciscoliberalwithagun.com (reloading info w/ videos)
                    http://www.liberalsguncorner.com (podcast)
                    http://www.youtube.com/sfliberal (YouTube channel)
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                    • #25
                      Sky_DiveR
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 3017

                      I watched quite a few precision guys at the range use the Lee Loader (whack a mole) work up loads. They don't use the dipper but with a scale and powder drop. Pretty interesting when they load 3-5 rounds and then shoot it for precision. Instant feedback on what works and what doesn't. I see nothing wrong with it. Been thinking of buying a set for myself just haven't gotten around to ordering it.

                      IMHO you can't get any cheaper than that and if you run out of rounds at the range, it's easy enough to load up some more right there.
                      Last edited by Sky_DiveR; 02-18-2011, 5:58 PM.

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                      • #26
                        LGB Loader
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 727

                        I just got excited when I saw the video of the guy whacking ammo in 40 seconds and though even if it took me a minute per round (after I get proficient) that would be great. I only intend on loading 308 and only for one rifle (my howa 1500).
                        Then get it. Get the Lee Loader. Brass may only be able to be reloaded 5-7 times but what the heck, you'll be handloading. Plus... I gotta admit, I like loading with the Lee loader. I always have. and if you are only loading 50 rounds every so often. Do it. But... I suggest you still buy a Lyman 49th edition manual and read the front. read it a few times and then have at it.

                        Let us know if you need any pointers once you have your book, tool kit and expendables.

                        Cheers...

                        LGB
                        Training in The Peaceful Art to achieve unnatural naturalness and natural unnaturalness, BEcoming WATER while serving The Great I AM.

                        John 3:16

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                        • #27
                          donger
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 1560

                          Originally posted by LGB Loader
                          Then get it. Get the Lee Loader. Brass may only be able to be reloaded 5-7 times but what the heck, you'll be handloading. Plus... I gotta admit, I like loading with the Lee loader.

                          LGB
                          Yeah but it's not possible to bump the shoulders back .001-.002". You're at the mercy of the Lee Loader.
                          Certified Ragaholic

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                          • #28
                            LGB Loader
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 727

                            Yeah but it's not possible to bump the shoulders back .001-.002". You're at the mercy of the Lee Loader.
                            Dude, he wants the Lee Loader, let's support him and be happy for him. He'll upgrade as soon as he pulls the trigger of that Howa 1500 chambered in 308 WIN with one of his handloads for the first time. First the smile, then the addiction. There will be no hope for him after that, just like you, me, and every other handloader on this forum.

                            Get the Lee Loader, sbjmg. You'll have fun...

                            LGB
                            Training in The Peaceful Art to achieve unnatural naturalness and natural unnaturalness, BEcoming WATER while serving The Great I AM.

                            John 3:16

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                            • #29
                              xbimmers
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 1646

                              Go with a Lee set up. They are the cheapest and they do work.


                              Originally posted by sbjmg
                              I want to hand reload .308 the cheapest way I can.

                              I am not looking at producing massive quantities nor do I shoot very often as ranges are quite a distance from me. So loading 50-100 rounds every couple months is what I am looking for. Which is why I am not looking at spending hundreds.

                              What is wrong with getting the Lee Deluxe 3 Die Set http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=148525

                              A nice rubber mallet and some scale. Would this be all I would really need other than components (brass, powder, primer and bullets).

                              What am I missing? Am I oversimplifying?
                              How do you travel...

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                              • #30
                                gunboat
                                Veteran Member
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 3288

                                Why would he need to "bump the shoulder back" ? He is using it in a bolt weapon, fireforming the case each time. Even if he did need to, just drive the case a mite deeper in the lee sizer.
                                Lee loader is not my choice -- tong tool for me -- but it certainly will get the job done.

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