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  • bumpo628
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 1142

    Lead alloy calculators

    I made a spreadsheet that will let you calculate the properties you get when mixing two or more types of lead. Let me know if there is anything that is incorrect or needs improvement.

    EDIT (3/10/11): I simplified the form down to just the mixed alloy calculator. Now you can mix all of the alloys in the table.
    EDIT (3/15/11): I added more alloys and updated the notes.
    EDIT (3/16/11): I added a column for arsenic data, two rows for custom alloy data, and updated the alloy specs.
    EDIT (3/25/11): I added a column for copper data so that pewter could be added to the table.

    Here is the 3/25/11 version: Lead Alloy Calculators 032511.zip



    ARCHIVES:
    2/14/11 version: Lead Alloy Calculators 021411.zip
    3/10/11 version: Lead Alloy Calculators 031011.zip
    3/15/11 version: Lead Alloy Calculators 031511.zip
    3/16/11 version: Lead Alloy Calculators 031611.zip
    Last edited by bumpo628; 03-25-2011, 11:09 PM.
    Ronald Reagan once said that the most terrifying words in the English language are: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help".
    Download my alloy calculator here: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=105952
  • #2
    Sky_DiveR
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 3017

    Good stuff. Thanks for the upload.

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    • #3
      bumpo628
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 1142

      Glad you like it.
      One of the moderators over at castboolits double-checked the math and it's good to go.

      I'm building up my stockpile of lead - I have about 275 lbs so far (including stick-on WW, clip-on WW, and monotype). I just bought another 50 lbs of WW and 100 lbs of roof flashing ingots. That will bring me up to 425 lbs.

      With the ban on lead wheel weights last year, it will be more and more difficult to buy ready-to-cast lead. People will have to mix their own out of whatever lead is available. Wheel weight lead already costs about $1 per pound delivered and it can only go up as the rest of the country follows Kali's lead.

      I haven't seen any lead for sale on the Calguns forum, but the castboolits for-sale page is a great place to get lead. Ebay is always good too.
      Does anyone else know a good source?
      Ronald Reagan once said that the most terrifying words in the English language are: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help".
      Download my alloy calculator here: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=105952

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      • #4
        bumpo628
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 1142

        The spreadsheet has been updated to include a Brinell hardness estimate for the alloys. Notes and more reference info has also been added. The estimated hardness values are shown next to the known values to show the accuracy of the calculations.

        Lead Alloy Calculators 020611.zip
        Description, Composition, Uses, Hardness, Est. Hardness
        Pure Lead, (100% Lead), Minies, Round, Brinell 5, 8.6
        Pure Tin, (100% Tin), Alloy, Brinell 7, -
        Pure Antimony, (100% Antimony), Alloy, Brinell 50, -
        Antimonial Lead, (5% Antimony, 95% Lead), Alloy, Brinell ???, 13.2
        Super Hard Alloy, (30% Antimony, 70% Lead), Alloy, Brinell ???, 36.2
        40 to 1 Alloy, (2.5% Tin, 97.5% Lead), Blackpowder, Brinell 8, 9.3
        30 to 1 Alloy, (3% Tin, 97% Lead), Blackpowder Brinell 9, 9.5
        25 to 1 Alloy, (4% Tin, 96% Lead), Blackpowder Brinell 9, 9.8
        20 to 1 Alloy, (5% Tin, 95% Lead), Blackpowder Brinell 10, 10.1
        Chilled Shot, (2% Antimony, 98% Lead), Shotgun, Brinell ???, 10.4
        Magnum Shot, (5% Antimony, 95% Lead), Shotgun, Brinell ???, 13.2
        Wheel Weight - Stick On, (0.5% Tin, 99.5% Lead), Minies, Round, Brinell 6, 8.7
        Wheel Weight - Clip On, (0.5% Tin, 2% Antimony, 97.5% Lead), Pistol, Rifle, Brinell 12, 10.6
        Lyman's No. 2, (5% Tin, 5% Antimony, 90% Lead), Pistol, Rifle, Brinell 15, 14.7
        Hardball Alloy, (2% Tin, 6% Antimony, 92% Lead), Pistol, Rifle, Brinell 16, 14.7
        Linotype Alloy, (4% Tin, 12% Antimony, 84% Lead), Alloy, Brinell 19, 20.8
        Monotype Alloy, (9% Tin, 19% Antimony, 72% Lead), Alloy Brinell 26, 28.7
        Ronald Reagan once said that the most terrifying words in the English language are: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help".
        Download my alloy calculator here: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=105952

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        • #5
          dev
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 1

          bump for some good info here

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          • #6
            WD_40
            Junior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 20

            This is good stuff. Thanks!

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            • #7
              bumpo628
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 1142

              I have updated the calculator to allow you to mix up to 10 alloys. In addition, you can now copy and paste the properties from the table above into the mixing calculator.
              If you have several types of lead, you can find out what you'll get if you just dump it in a pot and melt it all.

              Here is the latest version: Lead Alloy Calculators 021411.zip
              Ronald Reagan once said that the most terrifying words in the English language are: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help".
              Download my alloy calculator here: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=105952

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              • #8
                MiBalzRHari
                Junior Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 1

                Thanks. Excellent calc.

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                • #9
                  bumpo628
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 1142

                  I simplified the form down to just the mixed alloy calculator. I found that I never used the calculators on the 2nd page anymore, so I figured that I would expand the mixed alloy calculator to include all of the 19 alloys in the table.

                  Here is the 3/10/11 version: Lead Alloy Calculators 031011.zip
                  Ronald Reagan once said that the most terrifying words in the English language are: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help".
                  Download my alloy calculator here: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=105952

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                  • #10
                    gorblimey
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 1522

                    I haven't even downloaded the spreadsheet yet, but it's an awesome idea -- thanks for the effort. Are you including, or planning to include, projected hardness increase when water dropping?

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                    • #11
                      bumpo628
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 1142

                      Originally posted by gorblimey
                      I haven't even downloaded the spreadsheet yet, but it's an awesome idea -- thanks for the effort. Are you including, or planning to include, projected hardness increase when water dropping?
                      I don't know how to calculate that, but I do provide one example with straight clip on WW. Air cooled it is 12 and water dropped it is 18.
                      The calculator does give you an estimated air cooled hardness according to a formula from rotometals.com.
                      Ronald Reagan once said that the most terrifying words in the English language are: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help".
                      Download my alloy calculator here: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=105952

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                      • #12
                        ScottC
                        Junior Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 20

                        Sweet! Thank you-

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                        • #13
                          bumpo628
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 1142

                          I added more alloys and updated the notes.

                          Here is the 3/15/11 version: Lead Alloy Calculators 031511.zip
                          Ronald Reagan once said that the most terrifying words in the English language are: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help".
                          Download my alloy calculator here: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=105952

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                          • #14
                            bumpo628
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 1142

                            I added some more alloys (like pewter) and new columns for arsenic and copper. I found that arsenic was missing from the magnum shot and clip on wheel weight specs. So, now you will be able to make ww lead from shot and tin.

                            Arsenic is a grain refiner that greatly improves heat treating and quenching in lead/antimony alloys.
                            Copper content increases hardness.

                            I also added three rows for your own custom alloys or for past mix results.

                            Here is the 3/25/11 version: Lead Alloy Calculators 032511.zip
                            Ronald Reagan once said that the most terrifying words in the English language are: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help".
                            Download my alloy calculator here: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=105952

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                            • #15
                              Chickenthief
                              Junior Member
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 2

                              Hi bumpo628

                              In wiew of the Kalifornia lead ban i tried to enter some alloys based on tin.
                              Lets just say that it made the spread sheet go bonkers!!!

                              Something you want to look into?

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