9 mm brass too much "bell"

[sequoia_nomad]

That's a lot of work and potential hazard for about $10 worth of primers.

[jharry]

If I get rid of them these rounds the way they are, what is the safest way to dispose of them? Obviously I would need to render the live primers dead.

Currently, I have a small metal container with some motor oil that I throw live primers in (not many in there) that I suspect may have become contaminated for one reason or another. this can is about the size of a shoe polish can.

Thoughts on best way to dispose of the primers (my preference is always shooting them) - but that wouldn't work in this case.

[Corbin Dallas]

Ship them to me. Ill dispose of them correctly.

[XDRoX]

If I get rid of them these rounds the way they are, what is the safest way to dispose of them? Obviously I would need to render the live primers dead.

Currently, I have a small metal container with some motor oil that I throw live primers in (not many in there) that I suspect may have become contaminated for one reason or another. this can is about the size of a shoe polish can.

Thoughts on best way to dispose of the primers (my preference is always shooting them) - but that wouldn't work in this case.

Just take them to the range and drop them in the hazmat bin.

[Stryfe76]

I'd just back the sizing die out and resize the bell a bit and load 10 cases with a mild starting load. If they work fine load them all and use them. If you are worried that they won't last long just leave them at the range after you fire them.

[Lead Waster]

Ship them to me. Ill dispose of them correctly.

You gonna pay the hazmat?

If I screw up a round, I kill the primer with a sprtiz of wd-40

[bumpo628]

You gonna pay the hazmat?

If I screw up a round, I kill the primer with a sprtiz of wd-40

There wouldn't be a hazmat since they're attached to brass. Everyone knows that makes them safe...

[Bill Steele]

Looking at the mouth of my Lee seating die, it looks like it could take up to about .45 diameter, the sizing die is a lot more narrow at the mouth, like .390.

I think I remember the Dillon seater having a much wider mouth and very gradual taper, which would be ideal in nudging the mouths back into shape. Maybe you know someone with a Dillon 9mm seater, probably would get things in shape in no time.

[Corbin Dallas]

You gonna pay the hazmat?

If I screw up a round, I kill the primer with a sprtiz of wd-40

Nope. Primers are perfectly safe.


I'm still unclear as to why the OP doesn't just reclaim them. I've de-primed thousands of rounds over the years, never had any go pop on me.

[bumpo628]

I picked up some 9 mm brass recently (thrown into a deal) that has had the opening incresed to about the same size as a 40 sw...... unfortuately they all have new primers in them also. I havent even figured out how this could have been done, unless he used a 40sw expander die (maybe ???) to open the hole for the bullet to set in the cartridge.

It did not seem to split any of the cases though.

There looks to be about 500 of them - I cannot think of a good way to save them and make them safe and useable again

Thoughts/Suggestions?

Could you post a picture so we can all see what you're dealing with?
A side view of the three shells would be the best (9mm, 9mm (belled), 40 S&W).
I'm sure we are all imagining them worse than they actually are.

[ireload]

Jharry as Raymond stated "removed the decapping pin from the sizing die". Take a measurement of the outside diameter of the bell. I don't think that someone can bell it to the same size as a .40s&w. You might be basing it on the 9mm outside case diameter versus the .40s&w inside diameter. It would be impossible to bell a 9mm with a .40s&w anyway. You would wind up crushing the case.

You can reuse primers that has been de-primed. I've done it in both pistol and rifle rounds to see if mis-fires can happen. All went bang a couple of hundreds that is. This is before I thought of removing the decapper. That's one of my Homer Simpson moment in reloading.

You can still re-use your 9mm brass. You should have little or no problem running it through your resize die with or without the decap pin. I measured the carbide opening where the taper of my Lee die and it's around .400 (roughly).

If you want to get rid of live primers you can soak them in salt water for a couple of days. Regular water with table salt. Ratio wise, well I put enough salt in the water till more salty than sea water.

[novalondon]

Sounds like someone was trying to make .458 socom bullets and left the primers in...I have read where they have used the 9mm case widened out to make a bullet tip for the 458 case. Maybe? the size you give will fit in my Lee resizing die for 9mm. They should resize if the decap pin is removed first like Ireload said above.

[jharry]

Could you post a picture so we can all see what you're dealing with?
A side view of the three shells would be the best (9mm, 9mm (belled), 40 S&W).
I'm sure we are all imagining them worse than they actually are.

A lot of interesting suggestions made - I will try to get some pictures up later tonight - they really are pretty flared out.

[bumpo628]

Every time I see this thread I think of SNL


I'm sure the picture will clear this up.

I will try to get some pictures up later tonight - they really are pretty flared out.

[z-bob]

Wear eye protection (and maybe hearing protection) and go slowly and you can decap the brass and reuse the primers. I would keep the primers separate from your new ones and only use them for practice ammo. I've decapped dozens of live primers and never had one go off.

I think Lee makes a push-thru case sizing die for 9mm and you could push them through (***-first if necessary) to remove the bell. Most Lee products are really inexpensive and work well.

As others have said, your bullet seating die may be able to size them down enough to use them. (you don't have a 9mm Makarov sizing die or a .38 Super die do you?)