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  • Bill Steele
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2010
    • 5028

    9mm load puzzler

    I have been loading some 9mm Berry's in 115gr Copper plated RN.

    My Lee book says 6.6gr Accurate #7 start and 7.3gr Max for plated Copper in 115gr.

    The same book say 7.8gr Accurate #7 start, 8.7gr Max for lead in 115gr.

    and

    7.9gr Accurate #7 start, 8.8gr Max for jacketed 115gr.

    This is a head scratcher for me. Any ideas?
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    joelogic
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    • May 2008
    • 6593

    Whats the question? That lead should be the lowest?
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    • #3
      Chief-7700
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      • May 2008
      • 3382

      Get another reference book or information source. I agree with joelogic something is not right with the information that your using.

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      • #4
        GeoffLinder
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 2425

        That all sounds just about right compared to Accurate Arms own data sheets.

        Take a look and see for yourself.

        AA Load Data

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        • #5
          Oceanbob
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          • Jun 2010
          • 12720

          Bill....

          My Accurate Loading Guide No. 1 (from 1994) says:

          115 Gr (Lead) 7.8 starting...8.7 Max

          HDY 115 FMJ (Copper) 7.9 starting.....8.8 Max

          My Lyman 49 edition *current 2008

          115 Gr (copper JHP) (thats all) says:

          6.8 to start......8.5 Max

          All of these are Accurate No. 7.
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          • #6
            Bill Steele
            Calguns Addict
            • Sep 2010
            • 5028

            Guys, thanks for the feedback.

            Joe, the puzzling thing was how high the lead start/max load was compared jacketed loads. It just didn't make sense that the Copper Plated would be so much lower than lead or for that matter for the jacketed to be essentially the same as lead. But what do I know?

            Anyway, I have three sources now and will start with the lowest.

            Thanks again guys, this forum is great.
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            • #7
              GeoffLinder
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 2425

              I would trust the Accurate Arms load data. Not strange for jacketed and lead to be almost the same data.

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              • #8
                Bill Steele
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2010
                • 5028

                Originally posted by GeoffLinder
                I would trust the Accurate Arms load data. Not strange for jacketed and lead to be almost the same data.
                Thanks bud.
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                • #9
                  bucktooth7
                  Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 311

                  I too load 9mm copper plated 115 grain and load data is hard to find. The Lee manual lists some as you know. It's hard to figurer out where it stands in relation with lead and jacketed. The Accurate web site lists no data on copper plated. Plated bullets are a cheaper alternative for guns that don't like lead. ie: Glock. What's a reloader to do?
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                  • #10
                    Bill Steele
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 5028

                    I am following the Berry's site advice and keeping things between lead and jacketed. Of course, when some load specs are hotter for lead than jacketed, you get a feel for the state of the art.

                    It's all good though, I just start small and work up. Beats wondering what you are actually loading into that magazine as you open the next box.
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