Re:OSHA Regs

[singleshotman]

Well, here's news-i guess you guys can sell all your reloading presses, you won't be able to get gun powder any more, OSHa is trying to ban ALL POWDER SHIPMENTS as dangerues, i hear the NRA is working on this, it's been on several web sites, i'm at a loss to understand why none of us at CALGUNS picked up on this sooner, i found out on the ASSRA forum, that's for us folks who use Single-Shot Rifles like the Ruger #1 and silimar.

[Budd]

Got a link?

[singleshotman]

RE:Links

i wish i knew how to post links, but i do not.All the info can be found on the Siloh Sharps website, or the ASSRA forum(look under general discussion).It's easy to find, and while you guys who shoot smokeless powder may be complacent, YOU'RE NEXT-if OSHA gets there way you will not be able to ship less than A SEMI-TRAILER FULL OF POWDER-THIS MEANS THE END OF RELOADING.

[Prc329]

http://www.shilohrifle.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9088

From:
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:13 AM
Subject: RE: [Fwd: OSHA proposed rulemaking which threatens Fedex/UPS
shipments]

This proposal, if adopted, will serve to eliminate all shipments of BP by
UPS, FedEx, DHL, etc. Only the common carriers that are already doing the
bulk hauling will be available. There will be no BP available at the gun
shops, only direct from the distributors, unless you ship by the semi-load.
There are several other provisions further down in the sited section which
go even further (requiring constant attendance (no potty breaks, etc.) for
drivers, additional cargo segregation and fireproof storage, infringement on
private property rights, requiring fork lift operators to have a hazmat
license, etc. This appears to be a blatant attempt by OSHA to stop the
distribution of explosive materials under the guise of "employee safety".

RW

Ralph E. Walker
Director
Williamson County Center
Columbia State Community College
(615) 790-4403

-----Original Message-----
From: Terri [mailto:mblastdop@seidata.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:12 AM
To: Winston Roland; Buddy Townsend; Walker, Ralph E.; M.J. Longstreth;
Sharron Smith; Eric Bye
Cc: Jim Fulmer; Mike Yazel
Subject: [Fwd: OSHA proposed rulemaking which threatens Fedex/UPS shipments]

-------- Original Message --------

Subject:
OSHA proposed rulemaking which threatens Fedex/UPS shipments

Date:
Wed, 20 Jun 2007 1020 -0700 (PDT)

From:
<bpm806>

Reply-To:
bpm806-asepo@yahoo.com

To:
mblastdop@seidata.com

Hello Ms. Trowbridge, Nice to speak with you! As you know from
ourconversation, unfortunately a pending OSHA notice ofproposed rulemaking
is likely to result in UPS andFedEx no longer accepting explosives(!) I've
attached the document in question. The partreferring to the problematic fire
extinguisher changeis on page 18840, top of the center column, startingwith
(iv). This is well over what DOT requires currently. Giventhe number of
trucks they all have, any of which couldbe carrying a package of igniters
for example, thiswould be a huge cost to UPS and FedEx and they'resimply not
willing to do it. It's worth noting that while there are very
usefulexemptions in the DOT regs in 49 CFR which allow usall to ship black
powder as a flammable solid (and notas an explosive), OSHA probably won't
see it that waysince their regulations (27 CFR) don't have thoseexemptions.
Needless to say this would be terrible for all of us.The best chance we have
of preventing this hugeproblem is to have a lot of people write
inopposition. I'm working on getting as many people in our biz to doso and
would be grateful if you and the NationalMuzzle Loading Rifle Association
would as well.Please also spread the word among your friends andcolleagues.
The deadline is July 12. A short, simple letter ofopposition stating that
changes which threaten thediscontinuation of FedEx/UPS service shouldn't
beimplemented will do and here's where to send it: Electronically:
http://www.regulations.govFollow the instructions on-line for making
electronicsubmissions. or Fax: (202) 693-1648 (10 pages or less) or Mail,
hand delivery, courier service: OSHA Docket Office, Docket No.
OSHA-2007-0032,U.S. Department of Labor, RoomN-2625, 200 Constitution
Avenue, NW.,Washington, DC 20210. All submissions must include the Agency
name(Occupational Safety and Health Administration / OSHA)and the docket
number (Docket No. OSHA-2007-0032).Please put these in the heading of your
submission. These instructions are also at the beginning of theattachment.
Thanks very much for your effort and assistance onthis! Tassilo BaurChair,
Alliance of Special Effects and PyrotechnicOperators
(ASEPO)www.ASEPO.org(818) 365-9208(818) 841-1271

[anyracoon]

The article says "BP" which is Black Powder not Gun Powder. To different animals, both react differently to heat & flame!

[ocabj]

This is pretty bad if it goes into effect.

I forsee lots of black powder shooters switching to Pyrodex, unless they shoot with a circle of other block powder shooters that can organize large buys and have offsite licensed storage.

[Wulf]

Boy, if they get rid of black powder it will sure be hard for the anti's to use the "these aren't the kind of weapons the founding fathers conceived of when they wrote the 2nd" argument.

[aplinker]

Found this on regulations.gov.

I'll be reading through to find out what it is.

http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/ContentViewer?objectId=0900006480225367&dispositio n=attachment&contentType=pdf

[Wulf]

One important thing to remember about OSHA laws is that they only apply to employees. Any action that OSHA might take that makes it difficult for an employee to transport powder would only open the door wider for a self employed hauler.

[hoffmang]

Yeah, but realistically not enough self employed haulers will be available to canvas even 50% of the population...

-Gene

[Wulf]

I think you might be surprised. There's a lot of independent truckers out there. There's a lot of gun shows around the country every weekend. The reloading community is already pretty well organized for doing group buys, buying in bulk, and buying through unusual channels.

For sure I'm not in favor of the legislation, but I dont think it would be very hard to replace the current distribution system with one that depends on independent truckers, gun shows, gun shop owners, and tailgate entrepreneurs at the local gun club.

[hoffmang]

Wulf,

I think the economics would be really bad on that. It's about $10K one way for a full truck load for an average half country trip. I know this because I have need to move overwidth and overheight 18 wheeler loads from time to time and those tack on an extra $5K for special equipment, permits, and chase cars...

-Gene

[C.G.]

Wulf,

I think the economics would be really bad on that. It's about $10K one way for a full truck load for an average half country trip. I know this because I have need to move overwidth and overheight 18 wheeler loads from time to time and those tack on an extra $5K for special equipment, permits, and chase cars...

-Gene

Gene, you should move your boat through the water.

[Icarus]

A very bad side effect could be people making their own BP. Not that hard to do but so very very dangerous. Talk about Kaboom!

[hoffmang]

Gene, you should move your boat through the water.

A man who knows what I'm talking about. Running the Mississippi south to Panama and back up wasn't exactly what the last boat I trucked needed...

I did run it back and forth from Seattle to San Francisco in the water where she belonged...

-Gene