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  • Hunt
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 4833

    Powder measuring and dispensing

    Finally getting it all together for my first reloads got the dies figured out so that is good news. Need advice on a good reliable powder measuring and dispensing system for single center fire rifle cases. Cheapy Lee beam scale doesn't make the cut for me.
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    Munk
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 2124

    Get yourself a powder measure. You dial it in to what you want, throw the charge into the scale's tray, and if it's within .2 to .4 grns, your rifle won't notice (so long as it's bigger than a .223).

    You could also just use a trickler that's got a screw feed.

    Or lay out the massive cash (about 300) for an electronic/automatic powder thrower with a built in electric scale that always throws to within .2 grains.
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    • #3
      rjf
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2006
      • 649

      How does a beam scale not work? Be aware of drafts causing the balance to not settle out.

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        Stryfe76
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 744

        My Lee Safety Scale was super touchy, if I breathed or moved too fast within a few feet of it it would start swaying up and down. I got tired of holding my breath and trying to measure in slow motion like a ninja and replaced it with an electronic scale.

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          CSACANNONEER
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          • Dec 2006
          • 44093

          Originally posted by Stryfe76
          My Lee Safety Scale was super touchy, if I breathed or moved too fast within a few feet of it it would start swaying up and down. I got tired of holding my breath and trying to measure in slow motion like a ninja and replaced it with an electronic scale.
          If you electronic balance is not sensitive enough to pick up small breezes caused by movements or breathing, I'd look for one that does. Electronic balances will also give faulty reads if hooked up to 110V without a UPS or if there are any other electonics, phones, cel phones, etc. in the immidiate area.
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          • #6
            Fjold
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            • Oct 2005
            • 22985

            I have an RCBS chargemaster combo plugged into a UPS and it is very quick and accurate. But for over 25 years I just threw charges with a RCBS Uniflow measure into the pan of my 5-0-5 scale and trickled in the rest of the charge.
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            • #7
              Low-Pressure
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 1758

              I've been happy with my RCBS Rangemaster 750 Scale and Hornady Lock-N-Load Powder Measure.
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                Stryfe76
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 744

                Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                If you electronic balance is not sensitive enough to pick up small breezes caused by movements or breathing, I'd look for one that does. Electronic balances will also give faulty reads if hooked up to 110V without a UPS or if there are any other electonics, phones, cel phones, etc. in the immidiate area.
                The electronic will start jumping around if my face is about a foot from it or if I have a breeze or fan blowing near, but if I'm moving 2-3' away it doesn't jump around and take 5min to settle like my beam did.

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                  Hunt
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 4833

                  Originally posted by Stryfe76
                  My Lee Safety Scale was super touchy, if I breathed or moved too fast within a few feet of it it would start swaying up and down. I got tired of holding my breath and trying to measure in slow motion like a ninja and replaced it with an electronic scale.
                  yes exactly will gladly pay more for faster way to do things
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                  • #10
                    Hunt
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 4833

                    Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                    If you electronic balance is not sensitive enough to pick up small breezes caused by movements or breathing, I'd look for one that does. Electronic balances will also give faulty reads if hooked up to 110V without a UPS or if there are any other electonics, phones, cel phones, etc. in the immidiate area.
                    what is a UPS
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                    • #11
                      bumpo628
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 1142

                      Originally posted by Hunt
                      what is a UPS
                      Uninterruptible Power Supply

                      Basically a rechargeable battery that people usually use to power a computer in case the power goes out. It gives them time to shut down and save instead of losing their work in progress. Some higher end units regulate the incoming power (filter out high and low voltage) and eliminate 'noise'. Apparently some electronic scales suffer when subjected to dirty power.
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                      • #12
                        GeoffLinder
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 2425

                        Never own just an electronic scale, start with a good beam balance, add electronic later. RCBS, Midway, or Dillon beam balances all work fine, forget the Lee scale. Get a set of check weights too, nice to know your scales meet some form of calibration, hopefully they even agree with each other

                        Redding and RCBS manual powder measures are what I am familiar with and both throw reliably and as accurately as I need them to.
                        Last edited by GeoffLinder; 12-20-2010, 12:09 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Switchbarrel
                          Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 483

                          Powder charges

                          Originally posted by Hunt
                          Finally getting it all together for my first reloads got the dies figured out so that is good news. Need advice on a good reliable powder measuring and dispensing system for single center fire rifle cases. Cheapy Lee beam scale doesn't make the cut for me.

                          I'd never go back to a balance beam after getting and using my PACT scale/dispenser combo. If you're worried about loading during a power outage, get a digital scale that has both AC/Battery capability (there's a few). Much faster and less tedious.

                          Test review of RCBS, Lyman, and PACT digital electronic powder dispensers for shooting and reloading. Dispensing speed, accuracy, price, warranty comparison testing. IMR 4064 and H4831 extruded stick powder kernels weighed. Balance beam Prometheus scale accuracy. 6mmBR.com is for 6mm BR Benchrest precision shooting with 6BR FAQ, Reloading Data, Message Boards. Bullets, ammo, gun barrels, powders, primers, stocks, dies, accurizing, ballistics, tools, gunsmiths, gunsmithing, and varminting.

                          Old test but still good info.

                          -or, a lot of short range benchrest shooters use one of these with a scale to confirm charges - this is a very fast way of throwing charges. You just have to be consistent and some powders work better than others.



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                          • #14
                            ireload
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 2589

                            Originally posted by Stryfe76
                            The electronic will start jumping around if my face is about a foot from it or if I have a breeze or fan blowing near, but if I'm moving 2-3' away it doesn't jump around and take 5min to settle like my beam did.

                            I had a PACT electronic scale a few years back. It was touchy as well. I got around that by wearing a respirator and the fluorescent lamp I use above my bench also threw off the reading (eratic). Yes my wife dubed the garage "the drug lab". I wound up ditching the electronics and used my 5-0-5 scale more.

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                            • #15
                              SixPointEight
                              Veteran Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 3788

                              Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                              If you electronic balance is not sensitive enough to pick up small breezes caused by movements or breathing, I'd look for one that does. Electronic balances will also give faulty reads if hooked up to 110V without a UPS or if there are any other electonics, phones, cel phones, etc. in the immidiate area.
                              I've heard they can also be picky about fluorescent lights? True or not IDK because I don't have one.

                              ETA: lol, the post above me says it too

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