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I took about 30 rounds of 223 I loaded to Angeles this morning. Everything functioned perfectly. I loaded 10 rounds each using 77g SMK and H335 at 22.6, 23.6 and 24.6g. I did not get to check velocities since I forgot my tripod but everything functioned great. I also took some 308 I loaded with 168g SMK. Accuracy was pretty good for everything. The 308 pulled a .56 group of 6 shots. I forget what the load was, it is written down in my notes but it should be moving around 2400 fps.
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Nice! When it comes time for me to load rifles I'll get in touch with you.
Haha I just started loading and sticking to loading handgun calibers for awhile.Originally posted by 5150Marcelo -
You're a big boy, quit shooting those poof .308 loads.
FYI, the Nosler 168HPBT performs as well for me in my Savage and are typically $4-5 cheaper per box than the SMK's.
I just mixed up another batch of these yesterday with 44 Grains of Varget. The pig will die soon!Comment
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If you are getting .56" @ 100yards out of the box - nice work. Would like to see what the 175gr SMK's will do. You used Varget for the .308's? 42gr?
Was out there last weekend - took my Father and FIL to the range - we were hitting the little red pig off to the left at 600 yards all day. They thought it was like cheating. My dad used to be a sharp shooter in the Army in Vietnam - he was thoroughly impressed at hitting an 8" target center mass at 600 yards. He loved it.
Can't wait to get these dialed in even more.............
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In addition to the SMK's, it would be good for you to try the 155 Lapua Scenar. If you buy a thousand, Powder Valley has them as cheap as SMK's. The 155 Scenar has about the same BC as the 175 SMK, but you can get another 150-200 fps out of it. In my 10fp it has shot as well as the 175 SMK's, and I only need 30 minutes to 1000 and less wind. Not too shabby for a 308.
Sorry for the phone pic, but this is a run-of-the-mill 10 round group with the Scenars using 44.5 of Varget
Last edited by rksimple; 06-20-2007, 4:07 PM.GAP Team Shooter 5Comment
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In addition to the SMK's, it would be good for you to try the 155 Lapua Scenar. If you buy a thousand, Powder Valley has them as cheap as SMK's. The 155 Scenar has about the same BC as the 175 SMK, but you can get another 150-200 fps out of it. In my 10fp it has shot as well as the 175 SMK's, and I only need 30 minutes to 1000. Not too shabby for a 308.
Sorry for the phone pic, but this is a 10 round group with the Scenars using 44.5 of Varget
Have you tried the 167 Silver Scenar's??Comment
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Nope. I haven't ventured into the moly world yet. I'm waiting for a .243 barrel and then I'll jump into the moly DTAC's to see how that goes. Plus, the 167's have a .470 BC while the 155's have a .508. It seems like I'd be taking a step backwards going with the 167's, especially for long range.GAP Team Shooter 5Comment
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I think most manufacturers have the published BC's on their websites. The Berger 175 VLD is .528 and the 178 Amax is .495 (roughly that of the 175 SMK although sierra is a little conservative on their published BC's.)
You'd have to run the numbers on JBM or similar to see if the Berger 175 would have an advantage over the 155 Scenars doing 2900. The 155's just do so well for me, and with as flat as they shoot, I have no need to go back to the 175 SMK's.GAP Team Shooter 5Comment
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Doesn't seem right. The 155 SMK's were around .450 and the 168's were better than that. Look on the sierra website and it gives the 168 a BC of .462 above 2600 fps. The 168's just don't have a good balance of BC and velocity. You can do much better with the 175's if you want to stick with SMK's.
I've tried a bunch of different bullets from 155gr to 190gr in the 308 and settled on two: The 155 amax for hunting and the 155 Scenar for everything else.GAP Team Shooter 5Comment
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2850-2900 fps. Its out of a factory Savage 10fp with a 24 in tube. Up here in the mountains at 4000 feet, its only about 28 minutes to 1000! During load development, I used DP74 powder in R-P cases and got to 2975 fps before I noticed pressure signs. If it wasn't so temp sensitive, I'd be more tempted to use it. Right now I've settled on 44.5 Varget and an old lot of RA60 brass, which gives me 2850 fps. The crazy thing is that I haven't even sorted or match prepped this brass and I'm getting .5 MOA and an ES of about 15. I can't complain when I got this brass for $55/1000.GAP Team Shooter 5Comment
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