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  • himurax13
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 3895

    Dillon 650 vs 1050.

    Hello all, I was wondering if it would be worth it to spend a little bit more money to get a 1050 instead of purchasing a 650 with all of the trimmings. I am currently using a Square deal and I would like to get a big boy machine. I just want to set it up for .45 ACP initially but eventually I would like to set it up for .38 Special, 9mm, .40 S&W, and .45 Long colt. I am also considering .223 as well.
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    CSACANNONEER
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    • Dec 2006
    • 44094

    I think that 1050s are commercial machines and only have a one year warrantee.
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    • #3
      bruce381
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 2454

      IMHO no the 1050 cost what $250 per tool head so not a easy fast changeover i'd stick to the 650

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      • #4
        Chief-7700
        Veteran Member
        • May 2008
        • 3382

        Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
        I think that 1050s are commercial machines and only have a one year warrantee.
        You are correct.

        XL-650 to feed the: .45ACP's Les Baer Concept V, Ruger SR 1911, Ruger Nightwatchman,custom built Colt M1911, Springfield .45ACP Loaded.. 9MM SA Range Officer,Ruger P-85, Springfield Stainless 9MM loaded, SA 9MM 5.25" XDM, Springfield 9mm Stainless Range Officer, STI double stack .45ACP.
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        • #5
          Chief-7700
          Veteran Member
          • May 2008
          • 3382

          Originally posted by himurax13
          Hello all, I was wondering if it would be worth it to spend a little bit more money to get a 1050 instead of purchasing a 650 with all of the trimmings. I am currently using a Square deal and I would like to get a big boy machine. I just want to set it up for .45 ACP initially but eventually I would like to set it up for .38 Special, 9mm, .40 S&W, and .45 Long colt. I am also considering .223 as well.
          Go with the XL-650. I would love to have a RL-1050 but at 1500+ rounds per month just can't justify the expense nor afford to feeding the 1050.

          XL-650 to feed the: .45ACP's Les Baer Concept V, Ruger SR 1911, Ruger Nightwatchman,custom built Colt M1911, Springfield .45ACP Loaded.. 9MM SA Range Officer,Ruger P-85, Springfield Stainless 9MM loaded, SA 9MM 5.25" XDM, Springfield 9mm Stainless Range Officer, STI double stack .45ACP.
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          • #6
            FOLLOWER
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 19

            You Won't Go Wrong With An XL-650
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            • #7
              joelogic
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2008
              • 6594

              Must me nice to think $1000 is a "little more".
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              • #8
                calshooter1
                Junior Member
                • Mar 2005
                • 69

                XL 650 and with the money you save you could get a mr bullet feeder.

                video is a 1050 with the bullet feeder

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                • #9
                  Oceanbob
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 12720

                  It boils down

                  Originally posted by himurax13
                  Hello all, I was wondering if it would be worth it to spend a little bit more money to get a 1050 instead of purchasing a 650 with all of the trimmings. I am currently using a Square deal and I would like to get a big boy machine. I just want to set it up for .45 ACP initially but eventually I would like to set it up for .38 Special, 9mm, .40 S&W, and .45 Long colt. I am also considering .223 as well.
                  Bottom line. Money and Time.

                  If you have the money get a 1050.

                  It will save you lots of time. What is your time worth.?

                  Tool heads to switch are costly however.

                  The 1050 produces ammo effortlessly. More than most people can shoot.
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                  • #10
                    freonr22
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                    • Dec 2008
                    • 12952

                    Hornady maybe?
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                    • #11
                      RaymondMillbrae
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 2659

                      Remember also,

                      if you reload for rifle (.223, .308, etc..), you will need to invest in a seperate toolhead to "prep" the brass.

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                      Some of my tutorials:

                      RELOADING .223 VIDEO
                      HOME MADE RECOIL SPRING TESTER
                      SHORTENING THE LOP ON AN FN SLP SHOTGUN
                      INSTALLING SIGHTS ONTO A REMMY 870P
                      HORNADY 366 AUTO - INTRO OF PRESS & SLUG COMPONENTS (Part 1)
                      HORNADY 366 AUTO - PROGRESSIVE RELOADING OF LYMAN SABOT SLUGS (Part 2)

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                      • #12
                        Sheldon
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 2149

                        The one feature of the 1050 that I like the most is the fact it primes the cases on the same stroke as it does everything else, whereas on all their other presses you need to push back on the press handle in a separate motion to prime the case. The disadvantage to that is you lose the "feel" of the priming stage. With the mix of dual primer sizes on some calibers due to the non toxic line of primers....like the small and large primered verions of the 45 ACP cases, you have to take care to separate the different primed cases or you will set off primers trying to squeeze a large primer into a small pocket......you can catch them if you have the swager function installed and adjusted as it will take a noticeable amount of effort when a small pocketed case get to that stage.

                        The cost of the toolheads is a pain if you want to set up a single machine for a lot of calibers. The caliber conversions are more expensive too.

                        For all the calibers you plan on using.....I'de say the 650 would be the most economical way to go. A little slower due to the priming but still a lot faster than the Square Deal B.

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                        • #13
                          ronas
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 758

                          The lifetime warranty on the 650 is a very good feature. I've had mine since 1992 or 1993 and believe me I broken my share of parts on my 650 mostly because I did something wrong or had something improperly adjusted.

                          Recently I keep breaking the indexing rings. The last ones I got were a different color and made of a different kind of smooth plastic material.

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                          • #14
                            RaymondMillbrae
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 2659

                            Originally posted by ronas
                            Recently I keep breaking the indexing rings. The last ones I got were a different color and made of a different kind of smooth plastic material.
                            Funny,

                            I broke one after almost 10-yaers of use. And then my "knuckle-dragging" buddy broke the replacement one when playing on my XL650.

                            Like you said, they were promptly replaced by Dillon with light grey ones. I was also told by Dillon to lightly grease/lube all contact points. I now use a dab of Brian Enos' "Slide Glide" on a few of the contact points. (Which Dillon said was cool to do).

                            In Christ: Raymond
                            Some of my tutorials:

                            RELOADING .223 VIDEO
                            HOME MADE RECOIL SPRING TESTER
                            SHORTENING THE LOP ON AN FN SLP SHOTGUN
                            INSTALLING SIGHTS ONTO A REMMY 870P
                            HORNADY 366 AUTO - INTRO OF PRESS & SLUG COMPONENTS (Part 1)
                            HORNADY 366 AUTO - PROGRESSIVE RELOADING OF LYMAN SABOT SLUGS (Part 2)

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                            • #15
                              Fiveohmike
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 1047

                              I am a new reloader myself. I went with the XL650 so only have experience with it. It is a great machine. The fit and finish of the product was nice. Toolhead changes are a breeze.

                              Now take my info with a grain of salt as its the only machine I have owned
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