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  • bruceflinch
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 40142

    Speed of Charge Master?

    How quick are the newer powder dispensers?
    How many throws a minute will they do?
    Last edited by bruceflinch; 11-09-2010, 10:37 PM.
    Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

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    bruceflinch
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 40142

    23 views & nobody has a Auto Powder Dispenser? Sheesh...
    Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

    I belong to the group that uses firearms, and knows which bathroom to use.

    Tis better to have Trolled & lost, Than to never have Trolled, at all.

    Secret Club Member?.

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    • #3
      halifax
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 4440

      I've got an RCBS. Throws per minute depends on the amount of powder I'm using. Forty-seven grains takes about six seconds, I'd estimate since I've never timed it.
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      • #4
        J-cat
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2005
        • 6626

        It's faster than you can seat a bullet and put another case in the shellholder.

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        • #5
          GrayWolf09
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2008
          • 1619

          Originally posted by J-cat
          It's faster than you can seat a bullet and put another case in the shellholder.
          +1 If you are working up loads it is fantastic. No more adjust every 5 cases or so, just punch in the numbers and go!
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          • #6
            bruceflinch
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 40142

            Originally posted by halifax
            I've got an RCBS. Throws per minute depends on the amount of powder I'm using. Forty-seven grains takes about six seconds, I'd estimate since I've never timed it.
            Great! That close to my 308 load. That's more than fast enough for a Rockchucker!
            Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

            I belong to the group that uses firearms, and knows which bathroom to use.

            Tis better to have Trolled & lost, Than to never have Trolled, at all.

            Secret Club Member?.

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            • #7
              GrayWolf09
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 1619

              Ok so you got me curious. My RCBS Chargemaster throws 44 grains of IMR4064 in about about 20 seconds per. It's a pretty good pace. Of course lighter loads less time.
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              • #8
                D.carden
                Member
                • Jan 2006
                • 189

                RCBS Chargemaster is a "must have" for load development or single stage precision stuff......I like the auto throw setting. Set the tray back on the scale and it auto dumps a charge when it stablizes.

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                • #9
                  bruceflinch
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 40142

                  Originally posted by D.carden
                  RCBS Chargemaster is a "must have" for load development or single stage precision stuff......I like the auto throw setting. Set the tray back on the scale and it auto dumps a charge when it stablizes.
                  Hi Dan!
                  Yeah my old RCBS powder thrower is way too innaccurate, + I still had to trickle in the balance of the load. I will use it for my Savages pictured in my avatar. Last batch of 60 rounds of 308 took me 4 hours on the rockchucker.
                  Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

                  I belong to the group that uses firearms, and knows which bathroom to use.

                  Tis better to have Trolled & lost, Than to never have Trolled, at all.

                  Secret Club Member?.

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                  • #10
                    knucklehead0202
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 4087

                    bought a lyman 1200 but i haven't tried it out yet. all work and no reloading makes knucklehead a dull boy i'll try to get in there this weekend just to try it out at the very least. the lyman, by the way, also does the auto throw thing if you turn it on. i think the others are catching on. hornady and smartreloader also make similar units, as well as the PACT. you'll hear this and that, but i imagine they're all about the same, just a matter of personal preference. i started with a lee press and dies, but most everything else i have is lyman. mostly because i loved their tumbler i just started buying other stuff they made.

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                    • #11
                      xrMike
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 7841

                      Originally posted by J-cat
                      It's faster than you can seat a bullet and put another case in the shellholder.
                      True for me... I'd estimate it takes about 15 seconds to throw a 20+ grain charge for my .223 rounds. The first 15 grains only take about 5 seconds; it's that last trickling part that takes all the time.

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                      • #12
                        jimmykan
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 3097

                        There are some modifications you can do to the RCBS Chargemaster 1500 to speed up charging and reduce over-charging.

                        Previous posters are correct that the most time-consuming part of the charging sequence is the final slow-trickle phase. There are parameters that you can change to reduce the time delay in the trickle-stabilize-weigh-trickle-stabilize-weigh... cycle. Depending on the type of powder you are dispensing, you can get the Chargemaster to downshift MUCH later to the slower trickle phases, such that you are MUCH closer to the target charge weight so you will need to slow-trickle LESS powder to reach the target weight.

                        Read more on those parameters here:



                        This however, increases the frequency of over-shooting the target charge weight, so you need to do something else to compensate.

                        There are some modifications to the trickle tube that will increase precision (i.e. reduce instances of over-trickle). One is to line the spout by inserting a 1" section of McDonald's straw into the spout. I used a 3/4" section of aluminum tube that I bought at OSH. The reduction in spout diameter reduces over-charging greatly, but also slightly limits the maximum output during the high-speed trickle phase.

                        If you do the McDonald's Straw or Aluminum Tube modification, you can reprogram the Chargemaster to downshift very late, and the trickle delay very short and it still won't over-shoot the target charge.

                        I timed the charging sequence with a stopwatch, starting with setting the pan on the platform, until the display shows "CT - XXX" and it takes about 15-20 seconds to throw a 25-grain charge of ball powder, and 2-3 seconds less to throw the same weight of extruded powder.

                        It only takes about 5 seconds more to throw 45 grains of the same type of powder (the fast-trickle phase goes on for a little longer, and the slower trickle phases take the same amount of time).

                        Maybe I'll put up some pictures later.
                        Last edited by jimmykan; 11-11-2010, 10:59 AM. Reason: Typos... Terrible typos.

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                        • #13
                          Nessal
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 2261

                          I'm not sure what kind of changes they made to the new chargemasters but they must have done something because i can throw varget almost perfect to the dot everytime.

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                          • #14
                            gau17
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 846

                            try re-programing the unit. Mine throws much faster.

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