Loading for 308

[ocabj]

Yes.

[30Cal]

The micrometer feature on the die is nice. I'm not convinced it does anything on paper though compaired to a standard seating die.

I'd go with Varget over BLC2.

Ty

[Prc329]

What would be a good compromise to get to 1000 and still get good 100/200 yard groups. My bullet choices are so far 175g and 168g SMKs. But powder type and primers are in question. I am going to try to work out a 77g recipe for my AR as well.

[phish]

for 200-1000 yards, stick with Varget and either CCI or Winchester primers

don't try pushing a 168 to 1k, use 175s for that use

[Prc329]

That is what I was thinking.

[SavageHMR]

Yeah, don't try the 168g SMKs for 1000 yards.

I shoot 1000 yd competition with a Rem700 .308 and use 175g SMKs because at 1000 yds, the 168g SMKs are just at the point of going sub-sonic and so they are just becoming unstable right at 1000 yards. The 175g SMKs carry about 100 to 150 fps more speed at 1000 and so they stay super sonic and remain stable.

[Budd]

Yeah, don't try the 168g SMKs for 1000 yards.

I shoot 1000 yd competition with a Rem700 .308 and use 175g SMKs because at 1000 yds, the 168g SMKs are just at the point of going sub-sonic and so they are just becoming unstable right at 1000 yards. The 175g SMKs carry about 100 to 150 fps more speed at 1000 and so they stay super sonic and remain stable.

Have you tried the 180gr Nolser, 178gr A-Max or the 175gr and up Berger Match VLD? Just curious - gonna try them all to see what works best in the Savage.

Also, do you have a custom barrel with a tighter twist rate than a stock Remington?

[Prc329]

I have tried the 180g SMK from Fiocchi. They shot higher then the 168g SMK Black hills and felt recoil was heavier. I have my chrono so sunday should be interesting. I need to hit the stockade as well, ammo bros stocks powder as well. I gotta call them.

[SavageHMR]

Have you tried the 180gr Nolser, 178gr A-Max or the 175gr and up Berger Match VLD? Just curious - gonna try them all to see what works best in the Savage.

Also, do you have a custom barrel with a tighter twist rate than a stock Remington?

So far, I'm just using the 175g SMKs, haven't tried the others. Sierra also has other SMKs up to 240g and I may try some of them later, once my bullet becomes the weakest link in my scoring ability

Currently, I'm just using a 1:10 twist, 26" Remington Bull Barrel in a Choate Super Sniper stock.

[Budd]

Currently, I'm just using a 1:10 twist, 26" Remington Bull Barrel in a Choate Super Sniper stock.

I thought the Rem's were 1:11 - so you changed the barrel out? Good to know as the Savages are 1:10 for comparison purposes.............

The only thing I have fed mine is the 175 SMK Moly's.

Edit: Guess it is 1:12 from remingtonle.com

Model Caliber Weight (lbs.) Barrel Length Standard Twist Magazine Capacity Order No.
700P .223 Rem. 9 26" 9" 4 5714
.308 Win. 9 26" 12" 4 5709
7mm Rem. Mag. 9 26" 9 1/6" 3 5726
.300 Win. Mag. 9 26" 10" 3 5718
.300 Rem. Ultra Mag. 9 26" 10" 3 5735

[SavageHMR]

I just got this new 26" version last month, it's either 4 or 5 years old and I called Remington archives with the S/N and they verified it to be 1:10. That was a condition of sale that I had.

[Budd]

I just got this new 26" version last month, it's either 4 or 5 years old and I called Remington archives with the S/N and they verified it to be 1:10. That was a condition of sale that I had.

Nice find!

Still hammer rifled and not button rifled though.

Kidding aside - at least we are more apples to apples in comparison of weights though.

The 175 Berger VLD's say they have to be touching the rifleing for superior accuracy - will be interesting loading those up to get the dimensions right.

[Prc329]

Very nice. I was looking threw my sierra loading manual and the used a savage 12vss with a 1x10 barrel to do there testing. Nice.

[Gunsrruss]

Long Range Load.....

The Army Manual for 173gr match bullets is; 44gr of 4895 or WCC 846 ( BLC-2) With OAL of 2.84. I tried this, but didn't Crono. Used standard 210 primers. The 4895 didn't even flatten out the primers, where as the 846 did a little but not much. I will Crono this load soon. It seems to work well I also tried 43gr of Varget out to 1000 in a Rem.700 PSS. Results were also very good Good luck on your choice. Remember 2.84 not .0010 off lans

[Prc329]

I think I am going to do two loads. A slow 168 grain load and a 175 grain load to go out to 1000. So 2400 fps is considered good for an accurate load correct? What is good for a load to hit 1000 with the 175. Looking online I see 175 grain with IMR 4895 hitting 2700 fps with a max load. Sound good? I know I need to work up to this load, just getting ideas.

What's the deal with 2.84 O.A.L? My manuels day not to go more then 2.8