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  • halon101
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 596

    how heavy can i go?

    i am looking to load up some .223 for my ar. i have a 20" barrel with a 1-8 twist. i have been looking at some 68 , 75 and 77gr bullets but i am not sure if i have the twist. anyone have exp with this?
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    Helpful_Cub
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jul 2010
    • 1461

    You need to also know how long your bullet is. Then you can plug it into this nifty program and it will tell you the correct twist rate.

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      halon101
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 596

      thanks, i will plug away at that.

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      • #4
        Boots
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2008
        • 549

        This is from 6mmbr.com

        Barrel Twist Rate 1:14" 1:12" 1:9" 1:8" 1:7" or 1:6.5"
        Max Bullet Weight 55gr FB 65gr FB 73gr BT 80gr BT 90gr BT VLD

        223 Rem Guide for .223 Remington reloading, 223 Rem accuracy, .223 Rem hunting, 223 AI and 5.56x45 rifles. 223 Remington Brass, 22 bullets, powder, primers and loading dies for .223 Remington. Ballistics drop chart for .223 Rem, .223 Ackley AI, 2-250. 223 Remington Black rifle, service rifle, .224 bullets, accurizing, tools, gunsmiths. Articles archive for reloading, marksmanship, gunsmithing, and varminting.
        Eat what you kill... unless it's a zombie.

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        • #5
          halon101
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 596

          hah i need win95 to run the file. and it wont work in my browser thanks anyways.

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            halon101
            Senior Member
            • May 2010
            • 596

            thanks boots

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            • #7
              Boots
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2008
              • 549

              Originally posted by halon101
              thanks boots
              No problem!

              I found that page to be very informative when I was looking into reloading... and refer back to it now and then.
              Eat what you kill... unless it's a zombie.

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              • #8
                Ahhnother8
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2007
                • 1454

                Originally posted by halon101
                i am looking to load up some .223 for my ar. i have a 20" barrel with a 1-8 twist. i have been looking at some 68 , 75 and 77gr bullets but i am not sure if i have the twist. anyone have exp with this?
                Yes.

                The only real way to KNOW is to load and shoot them!! It just depends upon too many variables to give a black/white answer. It also depends upon what you intend to do with the loads. For short-range stuff, stay with the 55+- grain bullets. For the mid-range targets, the 75 to 82 grain bullets are great. The 77 SMK is EASY to get to shoot and flys ok from 300-500 yards. For long-range, one will need the 80-90 grain bullets. I have shot 90 Bergers from a 1:7.5 twist barrel out to 1000 yards. A fellow shooter has done the same with a 1:7.7 twist. The 80's may or may not shoot from a 1:8 twist. And it depends upon which 80 grain bullet.

                Basically, it just depends...

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                • #9
                  Boots
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 549

                  Originally posted by Ahhnother8
                  Yes.

                  The only real way to KNOW is to load and shoot them!! It just depends upon too many variables to give a black/white answer. It also depends upon what you intend to do with the loads. For short-range stuff, stay with the 55+- grain bullets. For the mid-range targets, the 75 to 82 grain bullets are great. The 77 SMK is EASY to get to shoot and flys ok from 300-500 yards. For long-range, one will need the 80-90 grain bullets. I have shot 90 Bergers from a 1:7.5 twist barrel out to 1000 yards. A fellow shooter has done the same with a 1:7.7 twist. The 80's may or may not shoot from a 1:8 twist. And it depends upon which 80 grain bullet.

                  Basically, it just depends...
                  +1

                  I've been trying different bullet weights, powders and charges.
                  Try loading 5 of each bullets you plan on shooting and go with the ones that fit best to what you want to use them for.
                  Eat what you kill... unless it's a zombie.

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                  • #10
                    halon101
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 596

                    thanks guys. i have been using factory ammo out to 350yds and am wanting to go further with my handloads. i keep seeing good bullets for sale but in bulk and dont want to pop on some 77s and find that i cant shoot them. i havent even checked the ACTUAL twist of my barrel. its a lilja so i have been assuming its 1-8 is close

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                    • #11
                      killshot44
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 4072

                      I use Berger 77gr "BT", 80.5gr Berger "BT" and 80gr JLK VLDs in my 1/8 24" WOA. Just have to have the velocity to keep 'em supersonic out to 1K.

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                      • #12
                        halon101
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 596

                        killshot44 im sure you can easily get that velocity with the 24"

                        i am looking for out to 600. that will make me happy.

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