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  • #16
    7x57
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2008
    • 5182

    Originally posted by Jicko
    Those rounds maybe OK in another guy.
    If they don't go in the other guy, you're definitely doing it wrong. Try not using the barrel as a buttstock.

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    • #17
      tujungatoes
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2006
      • 7942

      Originally posted by 7x57
      If they don't go in the other guy, you're definitely doing it wrong. Try not using the barrel as a buttstock.

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      i read that, and was very disappointed when the next person to post didn't capitalize on it. thank you 7x57. I'm glad it didn't go to waste

      ty423...as stated previously no you can't re size the loaded round. even if you removed the expander rod you'd ruin your brass and bullets. the sizing die reduces the neck diameter to less than spec. that's why you have an "expander", to expand it to the correct size. at the very least you'd have some extra skinny bullets when you were done

      it sounds like a major PITA pulling down 900 rounds just to then reload them. i'll agree with toby. if you can find someone who's gun will eat them selling them would be the easiest route.

      but yes you can reuse all the components. if you can remove the decapping pin from your die then great. hit those cases with some oneshot or similar non petroleum case lube, and size away. also I've made enough mistakes to know you can safely remove live primers. It's not my favorite thing in the world, and I don't recommend it. but I have done it on a couple small batches, and expect I'll do it again someday. just be gentle with that upstroke and wear hearing and eye protection. the worst I can imagine happening is the primer detonates and blows itself out of the case B.F.D. It's not contained, and with no powder charge I can't see any possible way for it to make your die into a grenade.
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      • #18
        6079Winston
        Member
        • Jun 2007
        • 368

        It sounds like a small base or full length body die might work. You could try contacting the die manufacturer to see if it is recommended or likely to result in death. On a more practical note do you really want to shoot ammo loaded with poor quality control?

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        • #19
          Ahhnother8
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2007
          • 1454

          Yes you can resize loaded ammo, in a small base die or a bushing die. Is it 100% safe? Probably not.

          Yes you can resize primed brass, in any die. Is it 100% safe? Pretty much.

          Yes you can decap live primers, unless they are crimped in (military). Is it 100% safe? Pretty much. Wear ear and eye protection.

          Yes you can pull the bullets. Is it 100% safe, with an inertia type puller? Nope, but they work great and don't scar the bullets.

          If you reload long enough, you will encounter all sorts of "issues". One must simply be smart about dealing with them...

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          • #20
            buffybuster
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 2615

            Originally posted by Ahhnother8

            If you reload long enough, you will encounter all sorts of "issues". One must simply be smart about dealing with them...

            Sounds like a potential tagline...... and sound advice.

            To me, being "smart" is "risk management"........ Is the "risk" of possibly losing my eyesight worth saving "X-dollars"? Answer: Sometimes Yes, Sometimes No... the experience is knowing when "Yes" and when "No".
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            • #21
              AIMSMALL
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              • May 2010
              • 2538

              I would go ahead and try those in a few other rifles, I've been in your shoes before and what I found was that my newer less fired 30-30 wouldn't eat them but my dads "old faithfull " 30-30 had zero problems with them. If you don't have another rifle, sell them to someone else with multiple rifles and disclose the problems you had. If they work in my Mini-14 I'd buy em'.
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              • #22
                J-cat
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2005
                • 6626

                You can resize them in a Redding body die. It only sizes the case body and leaves the neck alone.

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                • #23
                  Bolt2Bounce
                  Member
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 228

                  I'd pull the bullets resize them to chamber in your AR. resizing primed case is not dangerous and oil is NOT a reliable way to Kill a primer it may kill it it may NOT.. use imperial sizing wax or one shot with no issues.. If you do them in small batches it will not be too much of a PITA.. I'd weigh each charge of powder and make sure they are all about the same, shooting other peoples reloads is much more dangerous than resizing primes cases. B2B


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                  • #24
                    J-cat
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2005
                    • 6626

                    A body die only costs $20. Much faster than pulling 1000 rounds.

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                    • #25
                      bohoki
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                      • Jan 2006
                      • 20815

                      ive got a feeling they are not trimmed

                      so sizing wont do squat

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                      • #26
                        Triple R Munitions
                        Banned
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 1004

                        the problem with getting that custom reamer is that some of the rounds fit and some dont...i was going to test them in my buddies galill.....i am hoping that they will work there....i also have another 10k~ of 223 that the primers blow out because the brass was bad to begin with! i cant really even shoot that in a bolt.... i hate brass......

                        the question at hand...i would not recomend sizing them because basically you are putting a live round in a "chamber" (ie the die) and it has the potential of going off....its not worth it....but you can find a kid down the street and tell him to pull it for 5.00 a hour....

                        my .02

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                        • #27
                          Fyathyrio
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                          • Nov 2009
                          • 1082

                          One issue I see is what powder was used to make these rounds? If you don't know for sure, I wouldn't reuse it...
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                          • #28
                            ty423
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2006
                            • 1301

                            thanks for the input guys... I am waiting on the powder and primers I've ordered... I'll try a batch of 10 or more first before anything...
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                            • #29
                              CSACANNONEER
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                              • Dec 2006
                              • 44093

                              Originally posted by Bolt2Bounce
                              I'd pull the bullets resize them to chamber in your AR. resizing primed case is not dangerous and oil is NOT a reliable way to Kill a primer it may kill it it may NOT.. use imperial sizing wax or one shot with no issues.. If you do them in small batches it will not be too much of a PITA.. I'd weigh each charge of powder and make sure they are all about the same, shooting other peoples reloads is much more dangerous than resizing primes cases. B2B
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                              • #30
                                ireload
                                Veteran Member
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 2589

                                Ty423 since you already have fired those rounds, the reloads that is, take apart 3-5 of the ammo and weigh the powder charge. Pretty much get the average. Then you can pull apart the rest of the ammo. You can still reuse the primers. I have done it. It will go bang everytime. After you have reloaded the ammo then check with your case gauge to make sure it will chamber. No sense in wasting decent components.
                                As far as resizing a loaded round, it's a big no-no.

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