can anyone help me understand projectile pricing?

[joelogic]

I was reading about what made cars so expensive. The industry figures every $.50 the car costs to build translates to $2.00 to the end buyer.

A $30k car costs $5k to build.

They went on to explain where the rest of the money, advertising, payroll, margin, blah, blah, blah.

[mif_slim]

Mind you that bullet makers (hornady, nosler sierra king etc) has huge machines that cost them no less then 100k, then they have to maintain it too.

Another thing to concider is...if you can easily make jacketed bullets, Im sure the price will be lower...but we cant, so they name the price and we obay. If we dont like, we go to another maker and if that doesnt meet our needs, we cast boolits but we cant get as high speed as jacketed bullets.

[Revoman]

So it seems that no matter what is stated here as the reasons for the cost of bullets...........you're gonna shoot holes in the theory's...........just like shooting holes through targets!

If it's so easy, why don't you try going into the business and make all that profit for yourself?

You'll soon learn that it ain't that easy. Nothing's as easy as it seems, it seems.

[problemchild]

[QUOTE=Revoman;4628457]So it seems that no matter what is stated here as the reasons for the cost of bullets...........you're gonna shoot holes in the theory's...........just like shooting holes through targets!

Did the cost of engineers, electricity, machines you already owned suddenly go up 20 fold? Nope!


The price of the raw materials went up3x and the price of the bullets went up 30x.

Seem right to you? Not to me.

Im going to import 200k bullets from Serbia and we have 6 spots left open. Two spots are taken. You get 25,000 Prvi 145gr ball ammo if you want in. I'll have the final price next week. There is a 4 month wait. Price is FOB USA. So the cost of shipping from USA to your house would need to be factored in.

[gunboat]

Won't you have to get an import license?

[mif_slim]

"most imports are outside of the country"

lol, gotta love former pres. bush!

if you don't like US, there's a ton of other countries out there.

[SixPointEight]

Negative.

I can buy a widget from China at walmart for 1.00 dollar Where is the shipping on that?

Negative. Despite the lead content in china's widgets, they do not have the density that lead does. Most shipping is based on weight. I figure someone as smart as you seem to be would understand the laws of supply and demand, and the cost of running a business.

[problemchild]

Negative. Despite the lead content in china's widgets, they do not have the density that lead does. Most shipping is based on weight. I figure someone as smart as you seem to be would understand the laws of supply and demand, and the cost of running a business.

Ahh except "widget" number 2 is a 29.00 microwave that is both heavy and bulky eating up valuable space in the container. Ships dont care about weight. They care about space.

You cant tell me supply and demand is sucking up all the worlds bullets. There are hundreds of bullets manufacturers (1,250 companies in at least 92 countries produce weapons, parts or ammunition). Most were probably running one shift Pre-Obama. Some may have gone to two shifts post-Obama. Serbia is not supplying US soldiers with ammo. The USA is NOT sucking up all of the worlds ammo. If the overweight beer drinkers with guns were sucking up all the ammo those other manufacturers could go to two or three shifts and add weekends to that if need be. I simply cannot believe that if the worlds ammo suppliers went from one shift to 3 shifts + weekends that they couldn't fulfill a few bullet hoarders run to the gun shows in the USA.

There has to be more to this issue then some old fart at turners voicing his opinion about "supply and demand".

Anyway.........

6 spots open on the 200,000 308 ball ammo order to Serbia if you want in.

[SixPointEight]

Ahh except the "widget" number 2 is a 29.00 microwave that is both heavy and bulky eating up valuable space in the container. Ships dont care about weight. They care about space.

You cant tell me supply and demand is sucking up all the worlds bullets. There are hundreds of bullets manufacturers. Most were probably running one shift Pre-Obama. Some may have gone to two shifts post-Obama. Serbia is not supplying US soldiers with ammo. The USA is NOT sucking up all of the worlds ammo. If it was those other manufacturers could go to two or three shifts and add weekends to that if need be. I simply cannot believe that if the worlds ammo suppliers went from one shift to 3 shifts + weekends that they couldn't fulfill a few bullet hoarders run to the gun shows in the USA.

There has to be more to this issue then some old fart at turners voicing his opinion about "supply and demand".

Anyway.........

6 spots open on the 200,000 308 ball ammo order to Serbia if you want in.

Since you can't seem to accept the fact, I'm just gonna leave this thread saying, I'm sorry all the bullet manufacturers of the world haven't set out to please you and all of us other Americans. You mention Serbia not supplying the US with ammo...you realize other countries have armies and civilians that want ammo and bullets too right? The reloaders of CalGuns aren't the only ones buying bullets.

[problemchild]

Since you can't seem to accept the fact, I'm just gonna leave this thread saying, I'm sorry all the bullet manufacturers of the world haven't set out to please you and all of us other Americans. You mention Serbia not supplying the US with ammo...you realize other countries have armies and civilians that want ammo and bullets too right? The reloaders of CalGuns aren't the only ones buying bullets.

Yes I know all of that.

So based on what you say gas going from .95cents to 5.50 a gallon is valid supply and demand correct?

[Table Rock Arms]

Did you get a price on the 200k Also, you should find out what it is gonna cost for shipping and import taxes and all that before you buy because it might be more than you think. Not that I want in, but I would buy 200k 9mm bullets if the price was right.

[Jonathan Doe]

Making a bullet take a lot of effort.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Here's how manufacturing works. First they manufacture something as cheaply as they can. Then, they try to sell it for as much as they can. It's that simple. There is no "fairness" involved. If you manufacture something that nobody wants, people are not going to pay you a "fair" price for it so you can get your money back. Your product will end up in some surplus/bargain bin store selling for one tenth of what it cost you to make it. On the other hand, if you manufacture something that everybody wants then you will charge as much as they are willing to pay. If your warehouse and store shelves are empty of product because it is selling out so fast, that means you are not charging enough. If you're starting to see sales lagging and product clogging up your warehouse, then you are charging too much. If the price you can charge to sell it stays higher than the price it costs you to make it then you can stay in business.

[mif_slim]

mssr. it doesn't work that way with some people. IT HAS TO BE A FAIR WORLD!! lol

where is the love?!? let's all gather around the camp fire and sing kom-baya

[ar15barrels]

Won't you have to get an import license?

Yes he will.
He will also have to register with ITAR which is $1750 per year.