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  • weezil_boi
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 1305

    7.62x54R... did I oops?

    I have been shooting some ugly ammo out of my mosins for awhile now. Im sure its corrosive and looks like a ligher projectile... 147-ish.

    Not sure of the origin/maker... I got it crazy cheap years ago... when the ammo was insanely cheap. I got a big rubbermaid tub of it in exchange for a staple gun Id say it was in the 2500 rds ballpark.

    Over the years, Ive shot most of it. I had no interest in reloading for the 7.62x54r since so cheap. Now that Id like to try it... I need some brass.

    My last time out, I save a handfull of these cases for kicks. Came home and took a closer look at them. I always thought they were steel case-copper washed or something. Ive been tossing them.

    They are 100% brass. I polished one up... nice and shiney. I took a hack saw to one to see if full brass... yup.

    Now... my big question... is any of the old mil-surp ammo reloadable? This stuff has an "86" headstamp.

    Please tell me I didnt blow it. I only have about 100 rds left.
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    Brasspolisher
    Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 133

    You may be able to look yourself in the mirror if it's Berdan primed (and it probably is). If it's Boxer, hang your head and cry -- Win brass was about $40/100 when I last bought some (several years ago).

    In either case, that's a heckuva trade -- just remember all the good times you had running through it!

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    • #3
      huckberry668
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2007
      • 1502

      Boxer cases are reloadable and Berdan are not. Berdan case has 2 little flash holes and boxer case has 1 flash hole in the center. You probably have Berdan cases judging from your description.
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      • #4
        MKfan
        Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 182

        Sounds like Albanian light ball, that's some good stuff and hard to find. It is Berdan primed so it's not worth reloading but it is worth scrapping at the recycler

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        • #5
          gunboat
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 3288

          Actually Berdan is quite reloadable -- However, primers are hard to find and the process is time consuming -- In years past, many cases were not available in boxer ammo such as 6.5x55, 7.35carcano, 11mm mauser, etc but berdan primers were generally available -- I still have a small stache --A few cases even lend themselves to being converted to shotshell primers.

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          • #6
            mif_slim
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Apr 2008
            • 10089

            Originally posted by gunboat
            Actually Berdan is quite reloadable -- However, primers are hard to find and the process is time consuming -- In years past, many cases were not available in boxer ammo such as 6.5x55, 7.35carcano, 11mm mauser, etc but berdan primers were generally available -- I still have a small stache --A few cases even lend themselves to being converted to shotshell primers.
            lol, thats what I've done with some of my 54r's that were berdan primed.

            Only ones I found so far that are reloadable are S&B and Winchester. One time I found about 200 rounds of winchester 54r at the range!! That was like winning the lottery! LOL.
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            • #7
              Stryfe76
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 744

              Originally posted by gunboat
              Actually Berdan is quite reloadable --A few cases even lend themselves to being converted to shotshell primers.
              Care to elaborate?

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              • #8
                hlcarbine
                Member
                • Jul 2009
                • 241

                Originally posted by mif_slim
                lol, thats what I've done with some of my 54r's that were berdan primed.

                Only ones I found so far that are reloadable are S&B and Winchester. One time I found about 200 rounds of winchester 54r at the range!! That was like winning the lottery! LOL.
                what range? It was probably my brass that I didnt pick up, lol

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                • #9
                  gunboat
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 3288

                  Stryfe76 -- Repriming berdan - two general methods of removing primer, 1-hydraulically with a close fitting rod in the case mouth and case filled with water -- messy but effective. 2- tool, claw type affair that digs the old primer out. Takes a bit of fiddlin' and you mess up a few cases. Priming requires the correct size priming pin - there are a half-dozen diameters of berdan primers.
                  Converting to shotshell - depending on size of old berdan primer, drill out case for shotshell primer, forget drill size, slightly counterbore case for the flange on the shot shell primer -- and Bob's your uncle --
                  There are even a couple cases that use a berdan primer slightly smaller than a boxer primer that can be converted, 7.35 carcano comes to mind -- remove old berdan primer, mount on a spud, bullet diameter, mash the berdan tit flat which will close off the two flash holes. Make a flat nose drill .208-209, drill out new primer pocket and drill a new flash hole -
                  All of these procedures are time consuming and only reasonable if modern boxer cases are not available. In the late 50's and early 60's a lot of these surplus weapons we now enjoy just had no boxer cases available and when the surplus ammo ran out necessity was the mother of invention --
                  my ha-penny

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                  • #10
                    Bigtwin
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 2639

                    I do sometimes just shoot some old milsurp, no reloading for it though.
                    I have just been buying Winchester Metric ammo for about $18 per 20 or Prvi Partizan $16 per 20, saving the brass and reloading it!
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