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  • $P-Ritch$
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 1267

    newb 9mm reloading question

    hey all,

    i'm all set up and just about have it all figured out to reload my first batch ever, but there is one problem. I have hodgdons universal pistol powder and I can't find out how many grains I'm supposed to use. The bullets are 115 grain CMJ Cast(copper plated) by Frontier. I figured that they would use the same load data as 115gr FMJ, but I can't even find that. In my Lyman reloading manual they only have 115gr Speer GDHP data and on the hodgdon data site they only have LRN and Speer GDHP for loads at 115gr using universal powder.

    So, where could I look to find the proper load data for the bullet and powder I am using?

    Apologies if this is an extremely stupid, newby question. I just want to make sure I am 100% so that I don't make some horrible mistake.

    Jon
    RLTW

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  • #2
    XDRoX
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 4420

    Originally posted by $P-Ritch$
    hey all,

    i'm all set up and just about have it all figured out to reload my first batch ever, but there is one problem. I have hodgdons universal pistol powder and I can't find out how many grains I'm supposed to use. The bullets are 115 grain CMJ Cast(copper plated) by Frontier. I figured that they would use the same load data as 115gr FMJ, but I can't even find that. In my Lyman reloading manual they only have 115gr Speer GDHP data and on the hodgdon data site they only have LRN and Speer GDHP for loads at 115gr using universal powder.

    So, where could I look to find the proper load data for the bullet and powder I am using?

    Apologies if this is an extremely stupid, newby question. I just want to make sure I am 100% so that I don't make some horrible mistake.

    Jon
    If you're new to reloading I would only load rounds that you have data for. Because as you see sometimes it can be hard to find exact data for certain components.
    According to their website:

    100gr FMJ = 4.8 - 5.3
    115gr LRN = 4.0 - 4.5
    115gr GDHP = 4.5 - 5.0
    125gr FMJ = 4.3 - 4.9

    Since you have 115gr plated I would use the 115gr LRN data and up it a little bit. Most plated bullet companies tell you to use lead data anyways.
    In my (very limited) reloading experience, plated data pretty much falls right in between jacketed and lead.

    My guess is if you try 4.0gr it may be a little light and may not cycle the gun. So you'll probably have to go a little higher than the lead data (above in bold). You really need a chorno or at least some factory rounds to compare the recoil to, to know if you're rounds are OK.

    Hope this helps.
    Chris
    <----Rimfire Addict


    Originally posted by Oceanbob
    Get a DILLON...

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    • #3
      XDRoX
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 4420

      BTW, I'll check my manuals when I get home from work for you.
      Chris
      <----Rimfire Addict


      Originally posted by Oceanbob
      Get a DILLON...

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      • #4
        Chief-7700
        Veteran Member
        • May 2008
        • 3382

        Start Loads Maximum Loads
        Bullet Powder Grains Vel. P.S.I. Powder Grains Vel. P.S.I. Max
        OAL
        115 gr RN Alliant Bullseye 3.5 943 24,100 Alliant Bullseye 4.5 1143 34,000 1.169
        Alliant Unique 4.3 934 19,300 Alliant Unique 5.3 1092 27,100
        Hodgdon HS-6 5.9 1013 24,100 Hodgdon HS-6 6.8 1159 31,200
        IMR 700X 3.1 874 19,500 IMR 700X 4.3 1126 31,000
        IMR SR 4756 5.0 929 20,000 IMR SR 4756 6.4 1150 27,700
        IMR SR 7625 4.0 889 19,700 IMR SR 7625 5.4 1113 30,200
        Winchester 231 3.3 832 19,900 Winchester 231 4.5 1089 33,800
        Winchester 540 6.3 1063 26,100 Winchester 540 7.0 1182 33,800
        Winchester 571 6.8 1003 24,100 Winchester 571 7.8 1157 31,100

        The above is the reloading data from Rainer Plated bullets. Use at your own risk.

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        NRA Certified RSO
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        • #5
          $P-Ritch$
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 1267

          Awesome, thank you.
          RLTW

          WTB: AMD 65 parts kit with original barrel

          Interested in a Front Sight Diamond membership? PM me.

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          • #6
            Chief-7700
            Veteran Member
            • May 2008
            • 3382

            Here is another for you:

            XL-650 to feed the: .45ACP's Les Baer Concept V, Ruger SR 1911, Ruger Nightwatchman,custom built Colt M1911, Springfield .45ACP Loaded.. 9MM SA Range Officer,Ruger P-85, Springfield Stainless 9MM loaded, SA 9MM 5.25" XDM, Springfield 9mm Stainless Range Officer, STI double stack .45ACP.
            IDPA A41750 Safety Officer
            NRA Certified RSO
            "Stay out of the deep end of the pool; correct the problem with your credit card, not your dremel!"

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            • #7
              Sunday
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2010
              • 5574

              A reloading manual is good money spent.
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