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  • bootcamp
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 1019

    Safe single stage handloading pistol calibers for volume

    Ok, so I see a lot of guys posting that it takes them 50-60 minutes to load 50 rounds of pistol ammunition. I figure I'd help your frustration and give you some methods to load a bit faster all the while staying safe. I have been reloading since mid last year but I have a couple friends who have been handloading for years that have given me their methods of efficient single stage loading. I can handload about 200 pistol rounds in an hour give or take if there aren't any hiccups, otherwise add another 10 minutes or so for various things. I don't generally time myself, but I have watched the clock at the start and and the end of my session. I don't stick to 200 rounds. Sometimes I will do 100 or sometimes I will do 500. 200 is just my baseline for about an 1 hr. This is also assuming you've worked up your most desired load.

    DISCLAIMER: I take no responsibility on the end result of your reloads of handloads. This is just a step by step of HOW I HANDLOAD for volume with safety in mind.

    I'm going to walk you through the steps but this is provided that the dies are all preset, calibrated and locked in (rcbs type lock rings).

    1. case tumbling/cleaning. I don't consider this part of the "timed" portion of reloading. I usually pour some cases in right before I go to bed (11pm) and unplug the tumbler when I wake up (5:30am). Then pour a new batch when I get home from work, play with the kids, eat dinner, etc. and if i'm feeling really good, load another batch right before bedtime again. Making the most of your time... By the end of these 3 batches or more, I should have 1000-1400 cases bright and shiny.

    2. (optional) sort cases by headstamp. This adds a considerable amount of time, but if you're looking for accuracy this will get you the 1.5" groups. I'm just adding this step in if you have time.

    3. Mount the preset resizing/decapping die. The locknut on this die should be locked and preset so all you have to do is screw it down and tighten A TAD. If it's already preset, you don't have to CINCH it down, otherwise you lose your preset calibration. This goes for all the dies.

    -For this step, i'm working on 200 cases. You can fly through these cases. Resize, decap, resize, decap....

    4. Expander die, again screw in your preset expander die. Check your first case with a loose projectile to verify it has been belled correctly. Same as step 3, fly through the cases. When done with the last case, unscrew the expander and screw in your preset seating/crimping die.

    5. Load your hand priming tool with 100-200 primers and start to hand prime, load the next 100 and finish up. At this point, I like to have my cases in the loading block. But I don't load while on the loading block. I still take each case out, remove the desired empty primed case, charge it and load it onto an empty loading block. So the empty live primed cases are on the left and another empty loading block on the right. Pull from the left, charge and load it into the loading block on the right. Run through 10-15 cases and check powder charge on the 15th round. Dumped the weighed powder back into the measure and recharge that empty case (saves time). You shouldn't need to powder check more than 3 times per 50 rounds. But if you want to be as safe as possible, powder check every 10th round. It still shouldn't add much time unless of course your powder stem has worked loose and you do have an elevated load, you will need to correct. Charge all 200 rounds. Shine a light over all your loading blocks and verify that you have NOT double charged or have an empty case.

    6. Now at this point you've already installed your preset seater die. Seat and crimp your first bullet. Grab your calipers and verify cartridge overall length. In my case 9mm 1.135" for a 115 fmj projectile or 1.260" for a .45 230gr fmj projectile. Have these numbers on hand or have your book open to the caliber and projectile you're loading. Turn the cartridge vertical and check your crimp with the calipers. You should be able to fly through the rest of the 200 rounds. I actually check everyone 40th round or so to make sure i'm getting very close to my desired COAL.

    It took me a while to get this efficient in single stage loading. Hell I just started on my Dillon 550 but i'm still slightly quicker on my single stage process than I am with my 550. Partly because stopping the process in progressive loading is a LOT harder than in single stage handloading. I still like to stop and verify powder charges and COAL.

    Obviously a turret press would make this whole process a tad bit faster but on a rock chucker, this process is quite possible in and around 1 hour.
    Originally posted by ar15barrels
    Lube helps whenever you are trying to get something into a tight hole.
  • #2
    Shiloh13
    Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 156

    I added the Hornady LnL bushings to my Redding BB II single stage press and dies. Speeds up die changes dramatically. Also added the Hornady locking rings to the dies to really lock down the dies in the bushings.

    Works great for me.

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    • #3
      huckberry668
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2007
      • 1502

      This is no different than what I or anyone else does on a single stage. You're much better than I am (17 years of reloading) at accomplishing 500 rounds per hour on a single stage. I can do around 500 rounds on my Dillon 550 provided there is no distractions and the primer tubes are loaded ahead of time.

      Another thing, seating and crimping in 1 step isn't good. The bullet tend to get shaved while being seated and crimped at the same time. I strongly recommend seat and crimp in different steps. It's safer and more accurate.
      GCC
      NRA Certified Pistol Instructor
      Don't count your hits and congratulate yourself, count your misses and know why.

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      • #4
        bootcamp
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2006
        • 1019

        Whoa I never said I could do 500 in one hour. I can do 500 single stage in one session but it's more than double the time. I was simply posting this method for the guys that are frustrated at loading 50 rounds in 60 minutes.
        Last edited by bootcamp; 03-16-2010, 12:03 PM.
        Originally posted by ar15barrels
        Lube helps whenever you are trying to get something into a tight hole.

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        • #5
          Bug Splat
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2007
          • 6561

          You are fast man! Nice job.

          I can only muster 100 rounds in 70 minutes or else I feel like I'm going to smash a finger or something.

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          • #6
            mif_slim
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Apr 2008
            • 10089

            I timed myself and made a video to put on youtube for someone on here who requested it. I did 50 rounds in 13 minutes. 3 stages: Prime, charge, seat bullet (.223). Pistol would need an extra step, crimp. So I figured about 200 rounds per hour for pistol, 300 for rifle. Thats about right. Its normal to get that much rounds per hour. Good job on the write up.
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            • #7
              bootcamp
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2006
              • 1019

              Originally posted by mif_slim
              I timed myself and made a video to put on youtube for someone on here who requested it. I did 50 rounds in 13 minutes. 3 stages: Prime, charge, seat bullet (.223). Pistol would need an extra step, crimp. So I figured about 200 rounds per hour for pistol, 300 for rifle. Thats about right. Its normal to get that much rounds per hour. Good job on the write up.
              Thanks for that. In no way at all do I mean to be sarcastic about it. If I came off that way I apologize.

              I didn't know about crimping while seating the bullet to cause shavings but I have noticed that a little on my shellplate/shellholder.
              Originally posted by ar15barrels
              Lube helps whenever you are trying to get something into a tight hole.

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              • #8
                XDRoX
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 4420

                ..................
                Last edited by XDRoX; 03-16-2010, 2:22 PM.
                Chris
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                Originally posted by Oceanbob
                Get a DILLON...

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                • #9
                  huckberry668
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 1502

                  sorry, I mis-read your original post and you weren't sarcastic. 50 rounds per hour seems a little low to me too. 200 is definitely possible with your method. I've never been able to do that many since I do the crimping step separately using a Lee Factory Crimp Die for all my pistol rounds.
                  Last edited by huckberry668; 03-16-2010, 7:57 PM.
                  GCC
                  NRA Certified Pistol Instructor
                  Don't count your hits and congratulate yourself, count your misses and know why.

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