What componets will give me the most accurate load for .223?

[bfoosh006]

http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=6&f=42...

Tons of daily input there... careful it completely addictive.

[Bagelthief]

http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=206...

Look for Sierra bullets, Varget or RL15 powder... and as for Lapua brass, save that for a good bolt action. You'll probably not even find any Lapua on that spread sheet.

well, I did find Lapua brass on the sheet...but it was for 6.5 Grendel! LOL!

So why is it not advisable to use Lapua brass for .223 in an AR? I thought quality of brass had a major impact in accuracy?

[five.five-six]

Thats one big .223 your shootin there Tex!

dang, tried to slip 99 grains in there on you meant 69's I am having fun with 168' A-Max with .308

[bfoosh006]

well, I did find Lapua brass on the sheet...but it was for 6.5 Grendel! LOL!

So why is it not advisable to use Lapua brass for .223 in an AR? I thought quality of brass had a major impact in accuracy?

Better, cheaper brass is available...http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=8996
...Lapua makes great expensive brass, but in your AR...you'd probably never notice.
I sure haven't.
From what I've seen the bullet its self will make the most difference( in an ar), followed by powder, primer, and then brass.

More good stuff...http://radomski.us/njhp/cart_tech.htm...Please Note, the 80gr loads are single load only/to long for magazine use. 77gr is the longest you can load into a magazine.

[bfoosh006]

Read this article, it should give something useful whether you are interested in benchrest, service rifle or anything in between.

http://www.6mmbr.com/223Rem.html

This link also talks about expensive v. LC brass, about a fifth of the way down at...".223 Remington Components--Brass,Powder,Primers"

Lapua isn't "needed" for the AR, I would truly save the money get the LC brass, Sierra bullets 69/77, some varget, Rem 7 1/2, and go to town. You'll get more practice for the same amount of money.

Free float the barrel, get a great trigger..http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Geiss...icetrigger.htm..and have a "blast"

[mif_slim]

For 600 yards I get good results with 75grhp hornady pushed by 24.1gr rl15 with CCI primers. Won a few matches with it. But might not work with your gun.

I been wanting to try 80gr as I hear lots of praises from guy who uses them. I will let you k ow how it goes when I get some.

[anothergunnut]

I am just getting into reloading 223. When I switched from Hornady 55 gr FMJ to Hornady 68 gr BTHP, the difference was amazing. I did notice that the right powder charge also made a significant difference. I tried 5 or 6 different loads of Varget starting with published minimums. I found that the lower powder charges were most accurate in my rifle. I am using LC brass, Wolf primer, and shooting out of a 20" HBAR AR with a 1/9 twist. I load to magazine length. I also have some Sierra MK in 69 and, iirc, 77 gr which I still need to try. I've learned that it takes a lot of time to develop a load.

[ar15barrels]

I will be doing quite a bit of benchrest, with an AR. The barrel is from WOA, and is a 1 in 7 twist.
Ranges will be as far as I can accurately reach (600 yards or so) to 100 yards.

Wrong tool for the job, at least the shortrange job...

Your best 100yd accuracy is going to be with little 50-52gr bullets from a 1:14" twist barrel.
That fast twist barrel will cause problems for the best shortrange bullets.
That 1:7 twist you have is best suited to 77gr and 80gr bullets so stay with Sierra, Berger or small custom bullet makers.
These will be good bullets for 300-600yds.

[Bug Splat]

Wrong tool for the job, at least the shortrange job...

Your best 100yd accuracy is going to be with little 50-52gr bullets from a 1:14" twist barrel.
That fast twist barrel will cause problems for the best shortrange bullets.
That 1:7 twist you have is best suited to 77gr and 80gr bullets so stay with Sierra, Berger or small custom bullet makers.
These will be good bullets for 300-600yds.

+100

For benchrest shooting go light and fast. the larger heavier bullets will not group as well until you get out to 300 yards. The smaller bullets stabilized much faster and closer ranges. I also shot 69gr SMK bullet pushed by Varget for some nice results but they were never good enough for benchrest competition. they groups around 1/2" at 100 yards which is no where even close to placing in most matches. Even 1/4" will never get you walking away with prize money (in our club 1st place got your back you entry fee).

[cfm117]

For 600 yards I get good results with 75grhp hornady pushed by 24.1gr rl15 with CCI primers. Won a few matches with it. But might not work with your gun.

I been wanting to try 80gr as I hear lots of praises from guy who uses them. I will let you k ow how it goes when I get some.

When it absolutely has to go to into the 10 or x ring @ 600, Hornady 80gr A-Max pushed by 24.0 grains of Varget loaded .005 off the lands. DPMS 1-8 Stainless.

[Bagelthief]

Better, cheaper brass is available...http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=8996
...Lapua makes great expensive brass, but in your AR...you'd probably never notice.
I sure haven't.
From what I've seen the bullet its self will make the most difference( in an ar), followed by powder, primer, and then brass.

More good stuff...http://radomski.us/njhp/cart_tech.htm...Please Note, the 80gr loads are single load only/to long for magazine use. 77gr is the longest you can load into a magazine.

Makes sense...I guess LC brass it will be...And about the Geissel trigger, thats been the plan alllll along lol. Wouldnt have anything worse touch my rifle...

[Bagelthief]

For 600 yards I get good results with 75grhp hornady pushed by 24.1gr rl15 with CCI primers. Won a few matches with it. But might not work with your gun.

I been wanting to try 80gr as I hear lots of praises from guy who uses them. I will let you k ow how it goes when I get some.

Yea man, let us know how well they fly! According to Bfoosh, 79 grains is the highest weight you can load to mag length...I would die if I had to reduce my AR to a mere single shot...HAHA!

[Bagelthief]

I am just getting into reloading 223. When I switched from Hornady 55 gr FMJ to Hornady 68 gr BTHP, the difference was amazing. I did notice that the right powder charge also made a significant difference. I tried 5 or 6 different loads of Varget starting with published minimums. I found that the lower powder charges were most accurate in my rifle. I am using LC brass, Wolf primer, and shooting out of a 20" HBAR AR with a 1/9 twist. I load to magazine length. I also have some Sierra MK in 69 and, iirc, 77 gr which I still need to try. I've learned that it takes a lot of time to develop a load.

Iv heard lots of good things about Varget, except that it was difficult to meter because its stick...Have you tried RL15? People seem to like that powder better, especially for the heavy bullets...

[1lostinspace]

the ones your rifle likes best

[Bagelthief]

Wrong tool for the job, at least the shortrange job...

Your best 100yd accuracy is going to be with little 50-52gr bullets from a 1:14" twist barrel.
That fast twist barrel will cause problems for the best shortrange bullets.
That 1:7 twist you have is best suited to 77gr and 80gr bullets so stay with Sierra, Berger or small custom bullet makers.
These will be good bullets for 300-600yds.

Who died and made you expert on the subject of what barrel profiles are best for a particular job? You probably havent even ever held an AR barrel!



LOL just kidding man...Im mostly interested in long range shooting anyways. But thanks for the tip. I had no idea the heavier bullets were limited in how near they could consistently group....