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**Bug Splat** · 02-10-2010, 10:44 AM

I don't have a plunking pile. I run those babies till they die

. I hate having to bring in new brass. You have to start all over with sizing and measuring and fire forming and you pray your last load specs work with the new brass otherwise you have to find the best groups all over again. What round are you shooting?

**swerv512** · 02-10-2010, 11:14 AM

.308Win out of a Remmy 700.
It's just that i use this rifle for mostly for LR shooting so i want all my equipment to be up to snuff- not that i can find one reason not to reuse this brass again and again except for age and the fact that brass changes characteristics over time with repeated firings...

**swerv512** · 02-10-2010, 12:18 PM

seeing as how 2 hrs have past since my first post, i dont think i'll get to the new brass today.... i inspected each case (again) and found no reason to change. plus, i did some deep soul searching and i came to the conclusion that the brass i'm currently reloading is NOT what's holding me back. Practice, practice, practice- yep, i said it... I'll see more results spending the time dry-firing today more likely than having new brass...

**gunboat** · 02-10-2010, 8:10 PM

Why not just neck size and extend the brass life even more?

**Jonathan Doe** · 02-10-2010, 8:29 PM

Originally posted by gunboat

Why not just neck size and extend the brass life even more?

I agree. I just neck size the brass for bolt guns. For gas guns, I use the brass for about 6 - 7 loads and dump it.

**swerv512** · 02-10-2010, 10:01 PM

i've never had a neck sizer die before. i guess i believe that ultimate consistency will come from FL sizing. i do agree that neck sizing will increase brass life, but i guess i'm biased towards just bumping the shoulder back .001
i might have to get a neck sizer die just to check it out. you never know...

**Paindoc** · 02-10-2010, 10:38 PM

You full length size the brass every time you fire it in your same gun. A custom fit, so to speak. FL size is needed only if the loads might be used in another gun. Neck size and use a wire to feel the inside of the cases just above the web for evidence of thinning from brass flowing toward the neck. That thinning will cause case separation eventually.

Are you reaming the necks of the brass? Turning the necks? Measuring run-out? All of those contribute as much toward ultimate precision as does keeping the same set of brass. The 700 is a fine rifle, but not up to performing at a level that deserves this kind of load detail. I think you are correct -- practice will do more for score than worrying about brass.

Buy 1000 once fired single source quality rounds, weigh and sort into similar weight batches, then load 45 gr Varget over BR2 primers and top with SMK 175s. Then shoot!

**gunboat** · 02-10-2010, 10:41 PM

There is the theory that a case that is fireformed to the chamber produces the best accuracy.
Some extreme target shooters reload the same case over and over at the firing line.
Some single shot target shooters load the bullet into the throat then insert the primed/powder charged case.
I am not sure why you think a full length sized case that has to re-fireform itself each time is inherently more accurate. To each his own --

**swerv512** · 02-10-2010, 11:05 PM

Originally posted by gunboat

There is the theory that a case that is fireformed to the chamber produces the best accuracy.
Some extreme target shooters reload the same case over and over at the firing line.
Some single shot target shooters load the bullet into the throat then insert the primed/powder charged case.
I am not sure why you think a full length sized case that has to re-fireform itself each time is inherently more accurate. To each his own --

i only mentioned that FL sizing will give consistent results. and i dont FL size per say. i "bump the shoulder" back .001 with a FL sizing die- much different (at least to me) than FL sizing which would lead to excessive headspace and ultimately case head separation...

**swerv512** · 02-10-2010, 11:13 PM