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  • sv_1
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 525

    Split .40sw case

    Today I had a nickel plated case split from the mouth to about the middle of the case while loading it, this was it's 4th load.

    If this would have been fired in the gun, is there enough support from the chamber to prevent a KB?

    Should I pull the rest of the rounds apart? Visually they all look sound.

    I am already tossing the rest of this lot of brass...
  • #2
    troysland
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 2182

    Yeah, 4th load is near end-of-life.
    Originally posted by Colonel David Crockett
    "Ya'll can go to hell, I'm goin' to Texas!"

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    • #3
      Revoman
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2007
      • 2370

      Most times when the brass is removed from the tumbler/vibrator, you can hear a case that is split or cracked as it has a dull and different ring to it.

      I usually take a handful and rattle them around and listen for that unmistakable tone. Then when I finalize the brass, before loading, I check them one more time to remove bad brass, be it split, bent, out of round etc.

      If the rest of the rounds look fine, you may want to look at them through a magnifying glass to assure that they are stress/crack/split free.

      If these are shot from a revolver, I would say that the chamber would be sufficient, but out of a semi, I'm not sure and would leave that to someone more auto savvy.

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      • #4
        g17owner
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 881

        I seem to have more problem with my nickel brass more often than my regular brass. It does seem more brittle. I watch it more carefully than my other stuff. But all goes through a good inspection. I actually dont like nickel much because of this.

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        • #5
          PonchoTA
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 2289

          If you're shooting it from a Glock, it's not fully supported. Steyr's, Sig's, etc. are fully supported chambers however, IIRC.
          Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est.")
          - Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 45 AD

          sigpicNRA Life Member

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          • #6
            buffybuster
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 2615

            The nickel plating results in some degree of embrittlement. It's unavoidable. Use them until the casemouths begin to split and toss them.

            If you're loading anything near Max loads, you should be using either New or confirmed once fired brass cases of the same make.
            Luck favors the prepared.

            The original battle plan did not survive initial contact with the enemy.

            "The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." -Theodore Roosevelt

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            • #7
              sv_1
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2008
              • 525

              It's an HK USP, but my question was more whether a case rupture IN the chamber (not the unsupported area) would lead to serious issues?

              Nowhere near max loads.

              I don't think I'll have a problem with the ones that are loaded, but $3 worth of components isn't worth destroying my gun... so I'll put them aside and pull 'em apart later.

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              • #8
                Fjold
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Oct 2005
                • 22822

                Originally posted by troysland
                Yeah, 4th load is near end-of-life.

                I don't what I'm doing with the 40 S&W cases that I have 10 reloads on them or the 45 ACP cases that have over 40 reloads through them.
                Frank

                One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




                Life Member NRA, CRPA and SAF

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                • #9
                  bruceflinch
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 40127

                  I know I have yellow brass in .40 w/10 loads of full power factor thru a Para. I'm sure some of the nickel cases have a lot more than 4 reloads.
                  The Nickel cases are a tad thinner than the yellow brass. The nickel is harder & more brittle. So it does not lasts as long.

                  Recycle that old brass for $$CASH$$! Don't throw it away!
                  Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

                  I belong to the group that uses firearms, and knows which bathroom to use.

                  Tis better to have Trolled & lost, Than to never have Trolled, at all.

                  Secret Club Member?.

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                  • #10
                    diginit
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 3250

                    It is not a good idea to reload nickel cases. Do a google search.

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                    • #11
                      sv_1
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 525

                      After going through some of the other cases that were loaded the same amount of times, I found one more that was very brittle. When smashed with pliers, it split instead of bending.

                      I guess I'm not sure why it'd be a bad idea to reload nickel, but I'll look...

                      So i guess I'm gonna have to experiment to see if the chamber would contain it Can I borrow someones pistol? Anyone?

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                      • #12
                        diginit
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 3250

                        Better borrow someones hands too....

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                        • #13
                          bruceflinch
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 40127

                          Originally posted by diginit
                          It is not a good idea to reload nickel cases. Do a google search.
                          I did a Google Search. Nobody recommended against reloading nickel cases. They did say they won't last as long.

                          "Whachu talkin' bout, Willis?
                          Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

                          I belong to the group that uses firearms, and knows which bathroom to use.

                          Tis better to have Trolled & lost, Than to never have Trolled, at all.

                          Secret Club Member?.

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                          • #14
                            eaglemike
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 3893

                            If it's a split at the case mouth, I miss it during loading, and it gets into the chamber and fires - no issue in my experience.

                            .40 brass that fails at the base in a factory Glock barrel is a different story....

                            all the best,
                            Mike
                            There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

                            It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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                            • #15
                              sv_1
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 525

                              Mike- Thanks! That's the real world experience I was looking for.

                              I'm gonna play it safe and ditch the nickel cases that have been loaded 3 or 4 times.

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