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  • tteng
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2006
    • 1911

    Almost had an accident the other day

    I was shooting my reloads out of my 03A3 last Saturday at Chabot. Everything was going well, and then I heard a 'click' when I pulled the trigger. I had a FTF, so I pulled the bolt back and only the case came out. The primer had a dimple, so it went off (I didn't hear it). I might of spilled the unignited powder when I ejected the case, but I didn't notice. So I pulled the bolt, and there it was: the bullet was stuck in the barrel. No big deal, I inserted my cleaning rod from the muzzle and tap it w/ a hammer. Out it went, and I continued my shooting.

    It wasn't until I went home and thought about it- If I havn't check the case, and did REMEMBER I ejected the previous case (I scope-check my hits in between shots and possible forgot to eject the spent), I might of just chamber another cartridege and blow up my rifle in my face.

    I think what happened/and could-of is this,
    1. The primer went off, the powder didn't. But it was enough to shovel the bullet in about 1/4" or so (could tell by the bearing mark on the bullet)
    2. Since I don't crimp my reloads, it is possible to chamber another round: because the stuck-bullet will push the new bullet into its case if I smack the bolt hard enough, given the plenty room of 30-06 cartridge.

    Lesson learned.
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    NRAhighpowershooter
    Super Moderator
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jun 2003
    • 6485

    There was no powder in the case..... if there was enough bang in the primer to send the bullet into the throat.. it would have set off the powder charge.. same thing happened to one of my HP shooters Saturday at Chabot 3rd relay 8th shot offhand.... only heard a click.. bullet was into the lands real good.... no powder charge........
    'Just Don't Point, Squint, and Laugh! '

    Distinguished Rifleman Badge #2220

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    • #3
      shooterx10
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 627

      a squib load

      That's called a squib load in some shooting circles. Thank God you stopped shooting and checked your rifle!
      Psalm 144:1 - "Praise be to the LORD my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle."

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      • #4
        Matt C
        Calguns Addict
        • Feb 2006
        • 7128

        These were YOUR reloads, or factory reloads?
        I do not provide legal services or practice law (yet).

        The troublemaker formerly known as Blackwater OPS.

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        • #5
          tteng
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2006
          • 1911

          Mine, and I swore I eyeballed my powder level on the charge block w/ overhead light before I seated the bullet. The charge is 45gr of WC846 (from a RCBS powder thrower) behind 150gr speer SP. It's a mild load, but I didn't think it's under loaded. Is it possible for under-charged load not to ignite, but blown into the barrel by the primer ignition?

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          • #6
            Matt C
            Calguns Addict
            • Feb 2006
            • 7128

            Originally posted by tteng
            Mine, and I swore I eyeballed my powder level on the charge block w/ overhead light before I seated the bullet. The charge is 45gr of WC846 (from a RCBS powder thrower) behind 150gr speer SP. It's a mild load, but I didn't think it's under loaded. Is it possible for under-charged load not to ignite, but blown into the barrel by the primer ignition?
            Not if the bullet was seated properly. Bottom line, yes, you are VERY lucky not have had a ka-BOOM. I bet in the future you will be much more carefull.
            I do not provide legal services or practice law (yet).

            The troublemaker formerly known as Blackwater OPS.

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            • #7
              edwardm
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 1939

              I bought some of that American brand ammo from Cabelas a while back (or maybe it was SG, I forget now) for my M1 Carbine. Out of 600 rounds, we had at *least* 11 squibs in the first 150 and stopped using it. The rest is in my basement waiting to be taken apart and put back together properly.

              The moral: it can happen with handloads, reman ammo, or even new ammo.

              Originally posted by tteng
              Mine, and I swore I eyeballed my powder level on the charge block w/ overhead light before I seated the bullet. The charge is 45gr of WC846 (from a RCBS powder thrower) behind 150gr speer SP. It's a mild load, but I didn't think it's under loaded. Is it possible for under-charged load not to ignite, but blown into the barrel by the primer ignition?

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              • #8
                Yute
                Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 278

                Err.. Was it Amerc?

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                • #9
                  ghostwong
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 1204

                  Had the same problem with 45's

                  I did the same one time reloading some .45 and 9mm. heard the click and the nada. No power but the round got shoved up into barrel, Thank God for chopsticks and a make shift hammer.

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                  • #10
                    tankerman
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 24240

                    I avoid using a loading block. I think thats where a lot of people make mistakes, miss a case or get distracted or add one thats not charged and you've got a problem.
                    Prep and size, throw the powder then seat, then do the next round. Unless you're using ball it should be pretty easy to see if the charge size looks wrong.

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                    • #11
                      eckerph
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2006
                      • 1694

                      The moral: it can happen with handloads, reman ammo, or even new ammo.
                      Yup, I have had this happen to me several times with the UMC (250 packs) brand of ammo from wally world.
                      http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=764869 M1 ammo for sale

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                      • #12
                        ghostwong
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 1204

                        Walley Worrld

                        On commerical stuff?? That sucks

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                        • #13
                          edwardm
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 1939

                          Yes, that's it.

                          Originally posted by Yute
                          Err.. Was it Amerc?

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                          • #14
                            ocabj
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 7924

                            Originally posted by tankerman
                            I avoid using a loading block. I think thats where a lot of people make mistakes, miss a case or get distracted or add one thats not charged and you've got a problem.
                            Prep and size, throw the powder then seat, then do the next round. Unless you're using ball it should be pretty easy to see if the charge size looks wrong.
                            I use a loading block. I keep the primed brass in one tray or box. When I had weigh the charge, I put the case in the loading block, funnel, and put the powder in.

                            After I fill up the loading block (50 spaces), I use a Surefire E1L and visually scan all of the cases to make sure there's powder in there.

                            Pistol I just hand throw out of the measure, and put in the block. Then same visual check.

                            Distinguished Rifleman #1924
                            NRA Certified Instructor (Rifle and Metallic Cartridge Reloading) and RSO
                            NRL22 Match Director at WEGC

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                            • #15
                              Ninja45
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 624

                              Squib loads? The result of carelessness or inattention to detail.

                              I had a couple (or so) in my 25 years of reloading and had to replace a bulged barrel on a 1911 on one occasion because I was in a hurry to empty a magazine on a killer paper target!

                              Anytime you hear a click instead of a bang, wait about 5 seconds (in case of deayed ignition), open action, remove any live ammo (mags or individual rounds), check for any barrel obstructions, clear obstruction using a cleaning rod with the appropriate caliber jag and oil soaked patch. Run a couple more dry patches after the obstruction is removed.

                              Ninja45

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