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  • a1c
    CGSSA Coordinator
    • Oct 2009
    • 9098

    Ordered the Lyman handbook...

    You people got to me. I ordered the Lyman handbook (49th edition). I'll study it before I make any purchase decision (which will be dependent on me getting a job anyway - just got laid off a month ago).

    I was wondering how many reloading hobbyists turned their craft into a job with a FFL07 license (I believe that's the one you need to resell factory or reloaded ammo, correct?). I'm not considering it for myself, just curious.

    I'm also wondering... Is renting reloading equipment something some of you do or would consider?
    WTB: French & Finnish firearms. WTS: raw honey, tumbled .45 ACP brass, stupid cat.
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    5hundo
    Banned
    • Jun 2008
    • 2210

    Originally posted by a1c
    You people got to me. I ordered the Lyman handbook (49th edition). I'll study it before I make any purchase decision (which will be dependent on me getting a job anyway - just got laid off a month ago).

    I was wondering how many reloading hobbyists turned their craft into a job with a FFL07 license (I believe that's the one you need to resell factory or reloaded ammo, correct?). I'm not considering it for myself, just curious.

    I'm also wondering... Is renting reloading equipment something some of you do or would consider?
    DISCLAIMER: Please don't take this the wrong way because I'm only trying to help. I'm honestly not trying to "diss" you when I make this suggestion:

    Is there any way you can cancel that order?

    I have Lyman's 49th and honestly, I'm not impressed. It's not much use for some calibers and I've found that the Lee "Modern Reloading" Manual is much more diverse.

    Even Lyman's 48th (I'm told) is better than the 49th but I can't personally say because I don't own it. However, I definitely recommend the Lee manual over the Lyman 49th...

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    • #3
      a1c
      CGSSA Coordinator
      • Oct 2009
      • 9098

      Originally posted by 5hundo
      DISCLAIMER: Please don't take this the wrong way because I'm only trying to help. I'm honestly not trying to "diss" you when I make this suggestion:

      Is there any way you can cancel that order?

      I have Lyman's 49th and honestly, I'm not impressed. It's not much use for some calibers and I've found that the Lee "Modern Reloading" Manual is much more diverse.

      Even Lyman's 48th (I'm told) is better than the 49th but I can't personally say because I don't own it. However, I definitely recommend the Lee manual over the Lyman 49th...
      Nah, too late - ordered it through Amazon already (I had a few other unrelated books I needed to order). Thanks for the warning though. I was also planning to order next the NRA handbook after I was done going over the Lyman's.
      WTB: French & Finnish firearms. WTS: raw honey, tumbled .45 ACP brass, stupid cat.

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      • #4
        5hundo
        Banned
        • Jun 2008
        • 2210

        Originally posted by a1c
        Nah, too late - ordered it through Amazon already (I had a few other unrelated books I needed to order). Thanks for the warning though. I was also planning to order next the NRA handbook after I was done going over the Lyman's.
        It's not that the load data it gives is "bad", it's just that there isn't enough of it.

        Just remember that both Alliant and Hogdon post loads on their websites too. If you're going to rely on Lyman's 49th as your "soul source" for info, it will help to bookmark those websites. The Hogdon website even has loads with Winchester and IMR powders too...

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        • #5
          xrMike
          Calguns Addict
          • Feb 2006
          • 7841

          Originally posted by 5hundo
          Just remember that both Alliant and Hogdon post loads on their websites too. If you're going to rely on Lyman's 49th as your "soul source" for info, it will help to bookmark those websites. The Hogdon website even has loads with Winchester and IMR powders too...
          Yeah, I'd check the powder manufacturers' websites for their load data first, then check that against what's listed in 1 (or more) handbooks.

          Ramshot has load data on their website also, and it's much more comphrehensive than what's in my Lee handbook.

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          • #6
            Technical Ted
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Oct 2005
            • 12169

            It's recommended to have at least two loading manuals in your library in case you need to cross reference. One may have a load for a specific bullet type that the other does not. I have Lymans, Sierra and Hogdon's manuals on hand.

            I particularly respect Sierra because you can call their 800 number and speak to one of their "bullet smiths" and they can give you data for just about any load possible. They don't publish everything in their manual and the often test other manufacturers projectiles performance against their own.
            Originally posted by ChrisTKHarris
            That is one of the most idiotic statements I've heard. You are a retard.

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            • #7
              Mikeb
              Veteran Member
              • May 2008
              • 3189

              Is the "how to part" of the '49th edition still pretty good. That is mostly why I have recommended the Lyman Manual. I gave away my old one and need to get a new one. I liked it better than the Lee... Lee always seemed to have a chip on his shoulder. It's all good you can never have too many reloading manuals...it's part of the cost no one talks about...shhh
              Mike

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              • #8
                nn3453
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 2245

                Originally posted by Mikeb
                I liked it better than the Lee... Lee always seemed to have a chip on his shoulder.
                And talks about how you don't need expensive equipment. Guess what? You get what you pay for. I have seen enough Lee dies that were manufactured incorrectly to buy the Lee "we make cheap stuff but it works great" argument. Last set of Lee dies I got, the decapper was bent. Another set I got, the seater would mar the bullet badly. Pulled out the seater and it was not concentric. Lee's auto loader is a joke. Flimsy chains don't belong on presses. The fit and finish is like it was made in a sweat shop. Anyway, end of rant.
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                • #9
                  Brasspolisher
                  Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 133

                  Originally posted by Mikeb
                  Lee always seemed to have a chip on his shoulder. It's all good you can never have too many reloading manuals...
                  Mike
                  Agree on both counts.
                  Richard Lee is inarguably one of the great minds of the metallic cartridge era. Unfortunately, he still wants to argue about it.

                  A wealth of info in both sections of the book, though. Well worth putting it on your shelf, and usually available inexpensively compared to other manuals. (Just like his gear; there may be some characteristics that make it less-than-a-pleasure to use sometimes, but he always delivers great value!)

                  Lyman 48 is the best single book I've ever read on reloading -- haven't seen 49.

                  Here are some links to powder mfrs' reloading data:

                  Hodgdon, IMR, Winchester
                  Alliant
                  Accurate
                  Vihtavuori

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                  • #10
                    r08ert209cali
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 1534

                    49 s reloading instruction section is great. I have been reloading for years and still read it from time to time and still gain knowledge. I really like the layout in the lyman book. I also have lees book which is great for the lead cast data. I also have two speers and a siera manual. I plan on getting a barnes as well as a hornady,and nosler manual. they all have aplace on my bookshelf. I also use hodgdends website as well as reloadersnest.com for data.
                    the lee book can be had on sale for under $10

                    Just buy as many books as you can,try an get them on sale or used thats how I get all of mine.

                    I dunno, I've never been much for guns. I mean, sure, we have the usual gun by the door, another near the TV, one in the kitchen, and another in the bedroom...and several others laying around. For the most part though, we keep our home free of guns. We are peace loving folks.

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                    • #11
                      Fjold
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 23000

                      That's the correct way to do it. Read the book and make your decisions.
                      Frank

                      One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




                      Life Member NRA, CRPA and SAF

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                      • #12
                        GW
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • May 2004
                        • 16078

                        Where Lyman shines is in the reloading instruction chapters and particularly with load data for lead bullets. Their data uses a variety of bullets and powders from different manufacturers.

                        I have many loading manuals but in If you could only have 1 scenario, I'll always choose the Lyman book
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                        • #13
                          Mikeb
                          Veteran Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 3189

                          For the record I use a Lee Loadmaster for pistol (.45acp, 44 mag) and a Rockchucker for .308 and 38-55
                          take care
                          Mike

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                          • #14
                            chickenfried
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 7160

                            I was a little disappointed with the lyman manual. I already had speer, lee, and sierra. But it's so frequently recommended that I grabbed it. Didn't stand out against the others. How could you not have a 7.5x55 swiss entry or 230 grain FMJ .45 ACP load?
                            Originally posted by victor1echo
                            Hollywood is satan!!!!
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                            • #15
                              Technical Ted
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 12169

                              Originally posted by Mikeb
                              For the record I use a Lee Loadmaster for pistol (.45acp, 44 mag) and a Rockchucker for .308 and 38-55
                              take care
                              Mike
                              I have a Lee handpress with a RCBS Universal decapper die. I sit in front of a TV and decap cases before polishing and resizing.
                              Originally posted by ChrisTKHarris
                              That is one of the most idiotic statements I've heard. You are a retard.

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