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  • #61
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 57182

    Originally posted by qtrxist
    1050 over the 650
    -well it is rated to do more than 1000rph, but if your a noob like me, you want to make sure every station is right then this will significantly slow that 1000rph.
    The difference is not so much the small difference in rounds per hour to LOAD, but for the whole process from fired brass on the ground to loaded ammo in the ammo can.
    The 650 requires you to manually fix crimped primer pockets.
    The 1050 does it for you.
    That alone makes a significant difference in brass prep/inspection that has to occur BEFORE you ever put brass in the casefeeder.
    Randall Rausch

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    • #62
      Lancear15
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2008
      • 2629

      Originally posted by ar15barrels
      The difference is not so much the small difference in rounds per hour to LOAD, but for the whole process from fired brass on the ground to loaded ammo in the ammo can.
      The 650 requires you to manually fix crimped primer pockets.
      The 1050 does it for you.
      That alone makes a significant difference in brass prep/inspection that has to occur BEFORE you ever put brass in the casefeeder.
      Randall,

      I would really appreciate your opinion on my questions in post #59.

      Thanks,

      Lance
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      • #63
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57182

        Originally posted by Lancear15
        Another question, I have a lot of brass saved up.(no idea how much but a few large 50 cal. ammo cans worth) I would like to prep this brass for future reloading. I have 9mm, .40, .45, .38spl, 357mag, 5.56, and .300RUM. What would be the best tumbler I can buy that will handle this variety of brass sizes, what other items should I buy, IE trimmer, media separator, crimped primer pocket tool...etc.

        I would like to start purchasing every tool I will need to completely prepare all my brass for reloading in a progressive. I want to buy the best and most efficient equipment available, as I plan on using this stuff for the rest of my life.

        Thanks in advance.
        First off, you DON'T have a lot of brass saved up.
        You only have a little brass saved up.
        If you had a lot, you would have at least a 5 gallon bucket full of EACH cartridge.

        Dillon makes the best tumblers.
        For as little brass as you have, get the small or the medium one.
        If you think you will load in much larger volumes later, just pop for the big one right away.
        At least you won't outgrow the smaller one and the price is not that much different up front.

        Get the dillon media seperator according to the size of tumbler you get.

        9mm, .40, .45, .38spl and 357mag won't require trimming so you just sort them by cartridge type, tumble clean and start loading.

        5.56, and .300RUM will need trimming.
        You want to size before you trim and you want to tumble before you lube and size.
        You won't be able to size or trim without a press.

        I'll assume that you shoot a lot of 5.56 and very little 300 ultramag.
        You can use a hand trimmer for the 300 ultra.
        You may want to look at power trimmers for the 223, either Dillon which sizes and trims at once, or Giraud which trims and chamfers at once.
        Read my tacked thread about bulk brass processing for more details on choosing your method.
        Randall Rausch

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        • #64
          Lancear15
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2008
          • 2629

          Originally posted by ar15barrels
          First off, you DON'T have a lot of brass saved up.
          You only have a little brass saved up.
          If you had a lot, you would have at least a 5 gallon bucket full of EACH cartridge.
          ^ Elitist.







          J/k thanks for the info. I never look at stickies, I guess I should start, good stuff.
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          • #65
            cornflake
            Junior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 66

            Originally posted by ar15barrels
            First off, you DON'T have a lot of brass saved up.
            You only have a little brass saved up.
            If you had a lot, you would have at least a 5 gallon bucket full of EACH cartridge.
            Talking about abrasive personality!!!

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            • #66
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57182

              Originally posted by cornflake
              Talking about abrasive personality!!!
              Randall Rausch

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              Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
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              • #67
                freonr22
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                • Dec 2008
                • 12948

                HA!
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                Originally posted by dantodd
                We will win. We are right. We will never stop fighting.
                Originally posted by bwiese
                They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
                Originally posted by louisianagirl
                Our fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.

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                • #68
                  freonr22
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                  • Dec 2008
                  • 12948

                  So did you make a press decision?
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                  Originally posted by dantodd
                  We will win. We are right. We will never stop fighting.
                  Originally posted by bwiese
                  They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
                  Originally posted by louisianagirl
                  Our fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.

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                  • #69
                    freakshow10mm
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 3061

                    Originally posted by ar15barrels
                    First off, you DON'T have a lot of brass saved up.
                    You only have a little brass saved up.
                    If you had a lot, you would have at least a 5 gallon bucket full of EACH cartridge.
                    Yeah, those amateurs with their 5 gallon buckets.

                    That's all .223 brass in those tubs. 8K in the open one and 12K in each in the second pair. Also have 2 55gallon drums full of dirty .223 brass to polish, inspect, and load. Amateurs, when will they learn to know their place? 5 gallon buckets are for posers.


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                    • #70
                      Jonathan Doe

                      1050 is a high volumn machine, and if you don't shoot so much, say 1,000 - 1,500 per month, 550B would be good enough. I used 550B and can load enough for my handgun loads.

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                      • #71
                        joelogic
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2008
                        • 6593

                        Originally posted by freakshow10mm
                        Yeah, those amateurs with their 5 gallon buckets.
                        Give us a break, you do it commercially.

                        I have about 6 5 gal buckets of brass. But I always hoard when I can.
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                        • #72
                          jwest
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 3958

                          I'm sure someone has already said this but the 1050 is more for commercial shops and doesn't come with the lifetime no 'B.S.' warranty. Warranty is standard commercial - 1 year. Makes sense due to wear and tear - and if your making and selling ammo - more than pays for itself anyway and you can write it off on the books.
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                          • #73
                            freakshow10mm
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                            • Jun 2008
                            • 3061

                            Originally posted by joelogic
                            Give us a break, you do it commercially.

                            I have about 6 5 gal buckets of brass. But I always hoard when I can.
                            AR15barrels acted in a condescending manner like usual. I was returning the favor.

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                            • #74
                              ar15barrels
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 57182

                              Originally posted by freakshow10mm
                              AR15barrels acted in a condescending manner like usual. I was returning the favor.
                              I necer said a 5 gallon bucket was a lot.
                              I simply said you would have to have "at least" a 5 gallon bucket.
                              I have several 5 gallon buckets of both 9mm and 223 which are my only high volume cartridges.
                              Randall Rausch

                              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                              Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                              Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                              • #75
                                freakshow10mm
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 3061

                                Originally posted by ar15barrels
                                I necer said a 5 gallon bucket was a lot.
                                Really?

                                Originally posted by ar15barrels
                                If you had a lot, you would have at least a 5 gallon bucket full of EACH cartridge.
                                That statement from you indicates a 5 gallon bucket or more is a lot. The 5 gallon bucket being the threshold.

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