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  • #16
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 56973

    Originally posted by Lancear15
    Everything is magnetic if you have the right magnet.
    Please build me a brass magnet that does not attract steel.
    Randall Rausch

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    • #17
      ke6guj
      Moderator
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Nov 2003
      • 23725

      Originally posted by ar15barrels
      Please build me a brass magnet that does not attract steel.
      Heck, I'd take a man portable magnet that picked up brass and steel. I'd pick up everything and then go back with a regular magnet and separate the steel from the brass.
      Jack



      Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

      No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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      • #18
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 56973

        Originally posted by ke6guj
        Heck, I'd take a man portable magnet that picked up brass and steel. I'd pick up everything and then go back with a regular magnet and separate the steel from the brass.
        I'm lazy.
        I want to ride my unicorn to the range with my pet sasquatch carrying the brass magnet,
        grab only the brass and get back home to have my supermodel wife reload it all for me.
        Randall Rausch

        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
        Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
        Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
        Most work performed while-you-wait.

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        • #19
          RELOAD243
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2006
          • 43

          Originally posted by Lancear15
          This is correct, FMJ means it has a copper jacket that fully coats the core. It is going to be either lead core(not magnetic) or steel core(magnetic).

          FMJ is also the name of a great movie!
          FMJ does mean full jacket almost, the rear end is open, and the jacket can be made of almost anything, some manufactures are using a nickel and copper mix in the jacket and it will stick to a magnet..

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          • #20
            somiskid
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 1028

            Originally posted by Jon Se
            The gold and black boxed 7.62x39mm Wolf ammo is non-magnetic. It'll say "Copper Jacketed" on the box. Everything else is bi-metal jacketed and magnetic.
            yes because i bought the military classic box's and got kicked off the range last weekend because it was magnetic!!!

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            • #21
              More Juice
              Junior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 8

              im not sure about other parts of California, but a lot of ranges around LA are strict. Even indoor ranges say "no steel."

              i agree that the manufactures and stores should be a bit more descriptive.

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              • #22
                rc50cal
                Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 244

                Originally posted by Jon Se
                The gold and black boxed 7.62x39mm Wolf ammo is non-magnetic. It'll say "Copper Jacketed" on the box. Everything else is bi-metal jacketed and magnetic.
                Do you mean the standard black box with "WOLF" in red and "7.62 x 39 mm" in gold? I took some Wolf to Angeles last week. It passed their magnet test, but I had loaded it onto stripper clips years ago and don't know which load it corresponds to. The Brown Bear I also took failed the magnet test.

                Are our only other options corrosive Yugo or Winchester white box?
                All posts, messages, emails, and comments made by rc50cal are satire. They should not be misconstrued as legal, technical, or professional advice by anyone, not even the very dumb.

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                • #23
                  five.five-six
                  CGN Contributor
                  • May 2006
                  • 34729

                  Originally posted by ocabj
                  Let me know when the brass magnet is available.
                  LOL, yea, me too, i need one of those

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                  • #24
                    RELOAD243
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 43

                    Originally posted by Lancear15
                    This is correct, FMJ means it has a copper jacket that fully coats the core. It is going to be either lead core(not magnetic) or steel core(magnetic).

                    FMJ is also the name of a great movie!
                    This is not correct, FMJ means a jacket of any material, ie. most of the wolf stuff that stick to a magnet has a lead core but the jacket is bi-metal, meaning it has mostly copper with nickel added, the nickel sticks to the magnet..

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                    • #25
                      Mssr. Eleganté
                      Blue Blaze Irregular
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 10401

                      Originally posted by RELOAD243
                      ...most of the wolf stuff that stick to a magnet has a lead core but the jacket is bi-metal, meaning it has mostly copper with nickel added, the nickel sticks to the magnet..
                      This is not correct. Wolf has "copper washed" steel jackets. They make it this way to save money. Steel is much cheaper than copper. It would be ridiculous for them to use nickel in the jackets nowadays, since nickel costs more than copper. Also, cupro-nickel hasn't been popular as a bullet jacket material for many decades since it leaves so much metal fouling in bores. If you really believe that cupro-nickel will stick to a magnet, try picking up a U.S. "nickel" 5 cent coin with a magnet.
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                      • #26
                        RELOAD243
                        Junior Member
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 43

                        This is not correct. Wolf has "copper washed" steel jackets. They make it this way to save money. Steel is much cheaper than copper. It would be ridiculous for them to use nickel in the jackets nowadays, since nickel costs more than copper. Also, cupro-nickel hasn't been popular as a bullet jacket material for many decades since it leaves so much metal fouling in bores. If you really believe that cupro-nickel will stick to a magnet, try picking up a U.S. "nickel" 5 cent coin with a magnet.
                        Suggest reading http://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=362 about nickel and its properties, same as iron (steel) and cobalt.

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                        • #27
                          Mssr. Eleganté
                          Blue Blaze Irregular
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 10401

                          Originally posted by RELOAD243
                          Suggest reading http://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=362 about nickel and its properties, same as iron (steel) and cobalt.
                          And I suggest you try picking up a U.S. "nickel" coin with a magnet. They are made with 75% copper and 25% nickel. You said a bullet jacket that was "mostly copper with nickel added" would stick to a magnet. You said nothing about 100% nickel bullet jackets.

                          Nickel has averaged about $6.50 per pound over the last year while copper has averaged about $2.50 per pound. What reason could the Russians have for using nickel in their bullet jackets when it costs more than twice as much as copper, and every other military in the world gave up cupro-nickel jackets decades ago because of the fouling problems?
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