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  • mtsul
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 2024

    More ??Starting Reloading HELP CHECK IT AGAIN please

    cool thanks guys I just got my Lee Anniversary Reloading Kit from Cabelas it comes with a (powder data manual with more than 1,000 different loads)
    Also is this ok for starting?
    And do I need to buy other stuff? (besides Primers and powder and bullets and brass If I cant pick some up for free lol)
    My other question is do I need to buy a crimper?
    Or does that come with the dies? and is it 1 for small pistols 1 for large and same for rifle?



    I dont want to start a new thread

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    So my brother IS going to buy this is this all he needs to reload? (besides powder,primers,bullets, and brass
    Also If he buys bullets that are rifle 30cal will they work for any 7.? rifle say 7.7x57jap or 7.62x54r or so on (Just wondering so I can let him know he is going to watch a lot of youtube to learn so am I.
    I was wondering if somebody wanted help reloading/teach me I would drive up to an hour to learn (I dont want your ammo or anything just to lear how and do it) let me know
    And sorry about spelling its from my phone
    Last edited by mtsul; 10-16-2009, 12:36 AM. Reason: Add more
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    Nessal
    Banned
    • Jan 2009
    • 2261

    Can't see what kit that is.

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    • #3
      swerv512
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 3076

      Dont see anything in your cart. do yourself and your bro a favor if you love him and make him buy at least one reloading manual.... that should answer most, if not all, your questions...

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        • #5
          mtsul
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 2024

          Cool thanks I hope it works out
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          • #6
            bcrich
            Senior Member
            • May 2008
            • 1158

            mtsul, Im in ontario off the 10 and 4th st exit, I can show you the basics...I reload 308, 30'06, 223, 8mm I'm no expert but can show you what I have been taught!

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            • #7
              5hundo
              Banned
              • Jun 2008
              • 2210

              Originally posted by mtsul

              Also If he buys bullets that are rifle 30cal will they work for any 7.? rifle say 7.7x57jap or 7.62x54r or so on (Just wondering so I can let him know he is going to watch a lot of youtube to learn so am I.
              NO!!!! No!!! For the love of God, No!!!

              Don't do that!!!

              For example, if you are loading for 7.62 NATO, you should not use .312 diameter bullets on .308 Diameter load data. That could get you hurt and/or your weapon destroyed....

              Some cailbers require .308 and some require .312. Get a good manual and make sure you only use the same diameter projectiles that are spelled out in the recipe...
              Last edited by 5hundo; 10-14-2009, 4:46 PM.

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              • #8
                r08ert209cali
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 1534

                Originally posted by 5hundo
                NO!!!! No!!! For the love of God, No!!!

                Don't do that!!!

                For example, if you are loading for 7.62 NATO, you should not use .312 diameter bullets on .308 Diameter load data. That could get you hurt and/or your weapon destroyed....

                Some cailbers require .308 and some require .312. Get a good manual and make sure you only use the same diameter projectiles that are spelled out in the recipe...
                plus 1 on above^^^^^^^^^ also .311 are available for .303 british,7.63 x39 and 54,7.7jap all totally different than .308 bullets.

                I dunno, I've never been much for guns. I mean, sure, we have the usual gun by the door, another near the TV, one in the kitchen, and another in the bedroom...and several others laying around. For the most part though, we keep our home free of guns. We are peace loving folks.

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                • #9
                  eaglemike
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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                  • Jan 2008
                  • 3914

                  Please get at least 2 reloading manuals. Lyman has a good one, the NRA has put out manuals. Ken Waters Pet Loads is highly recommended. Even used manuals can be a great help, often available cheap or free. These sometimes even have data for calibers the later versions have dropped.

                  all the best,
                  Mike
                  There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

                  It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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                  • #10
                    mtsul
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 2024

                    Ok cool thanks guys yea We for sure will get as many reloading manuals as possible better safe than sorry
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                    • #11
                      tamalpias
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 1980

                      You really don't need that many reloading manuals. 1 is all I ever had or used. The basic information is in all of them and due to liability reasons they will always stress the same warnings. You just need it for basic info and data. the rest you can always look up online at the manufacturer that you bought the powder from for all the data you need concerning charges. Best is to just watch somebody do it and learn. If you are in San Jose Ca, i would be more than happy to bring my setup to you and show you. I reload with my two buddies and my stuff is transported whenever I go and reload with my friends. It is a time consuming but fun thing to do if you know what you are doing.

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                      • #12
                        5hundo
                        Banned
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 2210

                        Originally posted by tamalpias
                        You really don't need that many reloading manuals. 1 is all I ever had or used. The basic information is in all of them and due to liability reasons they will always stress the same warnings. You just need it for basic info and data. the rest you can always look up online at the manufacturer that you bought the powder from for all the data you need concerning charges. Best is to just watch somebody do it and learn. If you are in San Jose Ca, i would be more than happy to bring my setup to you and show you. I reload with my two buddies and my stuff is transported whenever I go and reload with my friends. It is a time consuming but fun thing to do if you know what you are doing.
                        It's good to have 2 manuals...

                        I have a lyman and a lee and there are many discrepencies between load data in the two. For example, on 30-40 Krag, with the lyman manual, it says that suggested starting on a 150gr bullet using H380 is 43gr. In my Lee manual, it says I can go all the way down to 40.5, which is nice because I like to take it easy on my Krags...

                        It's good to have a 2nd source...

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                        • #13
                          Revoman
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 2375

                          While I agree that the basic information is in all of the loading manuals, I disagree with not having multiples. At a minimum, 2 sources of information for loading, three or more, even better.

                          One simply is not enough.

                          As stated, many times there are discrepancies between manufactures, why rely on one when you can cross-reference and get a better feel for the brackets to fit between. There is better coverage with multiple manuals as not all manuals have every bullet weight and type. What if there happened to be a typo in your single manual? It could be disastrous.

                          I'm all for getting as much information as possible to eliminate the possible error at the range.....which is usaully a bad place to find an error.

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                          • #14
                            Fjold
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 22904

                            I only have 6 reloading manuals on my shelf and I compare them to the powder Manufacturer's data on their websites.

                            I forgot that I also have some small caliber specific reloading guides.

                            You can't have too much information.
                            Frank

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                            • #15
                              tamalpias
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 1980

                              The difference if you guys check them out are mainly that in the newer books they have a lower CUP rating for alot of the cartridges. For example my speer 13 reloading manual has Max pressure for 22-250 at 53,000 CUP and the newer Hornady book I bought for my friend listed it at 52,000 max CUP. Therefore it has a max load for 55 bullet at 34.6 gr. for varget and my older book says 36gr. For the best load data that is most current and up to date that is what the online data from each manufacturer is for. How much more accurate and up to date can you get from information published from the manufacturer's website than you can get from a 20 year old book? The book is good for basic and standard measurements that have not changed over time. For the most current reloading data just check the manufacturer's website.

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